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The most under discussed part of the saga seems to be that America has its own incipient Rotherham scandal where Somalis are given carte-blanche to rape at-risk American teenagers due to the authorities turning a blind eye to these crimes.
What happened in Rotherham occurred and occurs in every single Western country that experienced mass immigration. The only difference is that the peculiar ownership dynamics of the British tabloid press meant it achieved a degree of media attention it didn’t elsewhere, except to a much lesser extent in the Low Countries.
Are there any non-muslim immigrants doing this at scale? You don’t hear about the vietnamese or mexican rape gangs. You need the islamic peculiarities of :
Anyway, looks like germany will close the border so this insanity can finally end, or at least, not get worse.
Yes, I could have clarified ‘from the Islamic world’, but pretty much every Western country that has experienced mass immigration has experienced it from there too.
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Uh, what percentage of teenage girls in foster care do you think get raped regardless of race? It's not just 'foster care is bad' level, it's 'a girl in foster care is unusually lucky if she's not sexually abused' level.
Probably a decent amount
How many are random kidnappings where the kidnapper invites a friend over so they can both rape the victim and then after police collect physical evidence of the rapes the DA drops the case?
Probably a lot lower…
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Yes. I clicked on the court documents and that's all the reason given: "In the interest of justice." No subject, no verb, just that phrase, which could mean anything.
Perhaps overly charitably: I wouldn't expect the DA to write "The victim recanted and we have no physical evidence", "We no longer believe the crime occurred", or even "We think the officer lied in their report" or anything like that which would disparage their case or work generally. I could imagine "In the interest of justice" could be a euphemism for cases that aren't exclusively covering up crimes that would raise a politically-charged rabble. But the less charitable reading seems viable as well.
"In the interest of justice" is an idiomatic "term of art" in the US legal system. When you see it, the best way to think of it is dropping the case would create the most just outcome for all parties involved, including the wider population, but what exactly that means could be just about anything, including "prosecuting this may lead to right-wing racism against Somalian immigrants". It's my understanding that was more or less the idea with Rotherham, but we don't know if anything like that occurred here
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I agree, for me it's just an example of frustrating wording, in a situation where a considerably more concrete reason seems appropriate.
If I had to guess what actually happened, it's that a teenage girl in foster care(and let's be clear here- she was a sixteen year old in foster care) ran away from her placement(and it was probably actually legitimately shitty), encountered this guy(who it seems like she already knew) who offered to let her stay at his place for a while after she complained and she accepted with full knowledge that that meant having sex with him(if we have any teenage girls reading this- an older male acquaintance who's willing to let you sleep over because you're mad at your guardians absolutely expects that), and she either got mad at him for whatever reason or wanted to get out of trouble for running away so she said he raped her.
Yes, survival sex with teenage runaways is bad behavior. But rape charges over it getting dropped doesn't require any other explanation.
It would still be rape to do it with a sixteen year old in a coercive situation.
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Good God, I hope not.
Worry not. Teenage girls have other things to do.
Charge they phone, eat hot chip and lie, I assume.
What is hot chip?
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I'm going to push back on this posited scenario slightly, although your guess could be spot-on. My guess: Runaway teen 16 year old girl, dude is himself somewhat aggressively flirty with her. She, having been perhaps exposed to unwanted attention at home (or expelled because whatever authority figure in the house found her too promiscuous, or whatever) is nevertheless not used to attention from non family males, and is thus receptive to a degree. He portrays himself as earnest, helpful, promises she'll be fine, come on, it's a few nights. Perhaps gives her a drink. Or something else. In the course of the evening he asserts himself physically, and of course she is now helpless and once again at the mercy of a shitty adult. Sex occurs, and because she is 16 and not particularly confident to refuse she lets it happen. The dismissive way he treats her after this encounter then reinforces in her mind that she has been used and manipulated.
She goes to the authorities. They hear her case but realize the can of worms that would be opened, and, short of anything but circumstantial evidence, her word against his, and faced with a shitshow where race will be a factor, they quietly gull her into dropping the whole thing. Maybe her family gets wind of it all, wishes to have no scandal (a raped daughter is hardly a trophy to be put on the mantle) and drop it.
In the interest of justice.
Or sure, maybe she was just a roller who he caught and kicked out and she tried to have him arrested. We don't know.
You can read the complaint here:
https://x.com/doctorretardphd/status/1918460928104006119
I think the original procurer / kidnapper / rapist inviting over his friend immediately so the friend can join the raping is probably what makes this a weird case especially since she didn’t know them prior. Plus there was a rape kit done plus physical evidence!
It is possible it’s just some poor runaway who just had a he said / she said situation but… I don’t think so given this is exactly how it went down in Rotherham et al.
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from my understanding via previous discussion here, "in the interest of justice" is stock language, and the dismissal of charges were announced by officials well before this viral incident occurred. I share concern that we're looking at the Rotherham pattern here, but if there's solid evidence for it, I haven't seen it yet.
One swallow doesn’t make a spring but it is a little interesting how you can pick up a teenager, rape her with your buddy, attempt to prevent her from leaving your rape den, have physical evidence support the victim’s story and then after three years the DA will drop the charges.
Like this is pretty much a slamdunk case if prosecuted swiftly… unless you’re pulling a Rotherham and ignoring rape cases where the perpetrators are Muslim.
https://x.com/doctorretardphd/status/1918460928104006119
Using the word "swallow" in the same sentence as one in which the word "rape" appears twice makes me uncomfortable for some reason.
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I would describe that as pretty solid evidence for the Rotherham pattern. I'm now very interested in why they decided to drop the case.
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