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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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I won't say that this is a troll, since themotte has seen real people with such an opinion and it doesn't matter that someone is a new user when the entire site is new. On the other hand, this is certainly an inflammatory post without evidence, and doesn't belong here for that reason alone. Even though it does show some "evidence", the evidence is for something extremely narrow; the general claim

The answer is that excavations would be extremely hazardous to the false narrative that's been created and weaponized,

makes a very broad inflammatory claim that is not supported by the evidence provided, even if you were to assume it's true.

(And Nazis tend not to report evidence accurately anyway.)

It's all the very fine people from /r/drama.

The other day someone asked if Holocaust denial was off limits, so when Zorba replied with "not per se...", it was only a matter of time before someone tried to push the limits.

Nah, being fair to /r/Drama, they have a certain style that is identifiable and it's not this guy.

Yeah, because the whole comment has been copy-pasted. Pretty sure dramanauts know ho to use CTRL+C and CTRL+V.

Just plain copy-paste wouldn't be enough for a dramanaut, they would need to spice it up.

It's all the very fine people from /r/drama.

No, that guy wasn't one of us. The rdrama style is pretty distinct, feeding off of people's preconceptions and leaning into the absurdity of modern discourse. It also features plenty of coded language, which I see none of here.

Actually I don't think I've seen anyone from there trolling since the initial launch, only people participating in good faith, which is interesting to see. Our style really works best on people who don't think too hard about what they read, so I think you guys are mostly off the hook.

The style that rdrama posts and then upvotes internally so it's visible may be distinct, but there's an obvious selection bias here in that the poster may very well just have been a low-quality rdrama user.

For all we know there could be a bunch of crap posts made by rdrama, like potentially this one, that just never rise to visibility there - resulting in a massively inflated view on what stuff actually gets produced.

I don't really know how to convince you guys that this isn't the case, but it isn't. Call it a woman's intuition, or at least something like that.

As others pointed out, the comment has been copy-pasted from another sub, so appeals to style make no sense here.

You're just gonna have to take my word for it, that isn't how rdrama operates. As a subject matter expert, I know that guy wasn't one of us. Whether or not you decide to believe me is up to you.

According to your fellow drama appreciator, there's a guy over there with an axe to grind, who's pastime it is to convince people, that everyone here is a nazi.... I might need a bit more than "trust me, bro".

Could also be sneerclub, but I don't see what they'd get out of it now that we're off redit.

No, it's not even that person, because they have a unique style and cannot resist poking the bear. If they were doing it, it wouldn't just be straight up copy and paste, it would include some bait to get us all going so that they could then snip out reactions out of context and run back to show everyone their bouquet of wild flowers.

I can't really say more, sorry. Trade secrets.

I suspect some dramanauts are already pissed at me.

I mean are the figures correct is a fair argument. Does Israel used the holocaust as a political weapon to defend it's actions is also a fair question. Did the holocaust occur at all is an unfair question. The top comment seems to fall within fair but misguided or very likely incorrect.

As I age, I find myself slowly converting to something resembling Hlynkaism.

I mostly agree with you, hell I'd go even further, in and of itself, I don't think it's all that wrong to debate whether it happened at all or not.

But that's missing the point: what sort of person posts something like this as his opening move, on the day we move offsite?

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This account is private

This user has enabled private mode to cloak their posting history.

Very "well meaning, but misguided" vibes from that one.

All right, I concede. It's a troll.

(I don't actually disagree with Hlynka all that much, though he seems to hate me for some reason.)

eh who cares. I am not here for the quality of the people I am here for ideas that I wouldn't here in the main culture sphere and then to process those ideas on my own terms to come to my own conclusions about them. Between you and me, I think the majority of this sites membership is made up of very bulliable people. Yet I shall be polite, for I come here for ideas, not the people's natures.

I'm sorry, an internet person talking about how bulliable people are is a bit much.

Hey I never said I was an exception to the rule, i am just further proof of the rule being true.

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