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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 16, 2025

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It’s people like Natalie Winters, whose response to the Trump-Musk feud was, “this whole thing is proof of why we shouldn’t vaccinate children.”

I'm just going to candidly and frankly tell you because of the shenanigans by the biotech companies and governments I'm not going to be getting my scheduled age group vaccines that are coming up, there are posters all over my Doc's hall ways that such and such age brackets have their regular scheduled vaccines coming up, I'm just not going to get it, I'm going to delay the whole thing as long as humanly possible and if by some administrative slight of hand the issue is pressed I'm going to go shopping for a doctor who I can slip a 100 and have him fictitiously give me one, noting me down in the app that I had mine given.

Your post suggests that you're talking about yourself rather than your child, which is a relief. But I have to ask, what negatives do you forsee from getting vaccinated so much that you'd risk getting the diseases they protect against?

thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, sometimes abbreviated to TTS

So you're avoiding a vaccine which stopped a global pandemic that killed millions because four out of every million (that is, 0.0004%) people who get the vaccine develop a heart condition because of it?

It feels like your position is based more on political contrarianism than statistical sense.

Like, I get it, governments got authoritarian and petty when it came to vaccines. I couldn't buy a beer in a German biergarten because I didn't have the right vaccine passport app, while all my friends (who I was sitting with) were allowed to, as if the beer somehow facilitated the transmission of the virus. That was dumb. But you're not sticking it to the wokes by not getting a vaccine, you're just increasing the chance that you get ill or (God forbid) die from a preventable disease.

Man I don’t care. I will discuss getting the vaccine on a risk/benefit basis when 1) Dr Fauci is publicly executed and 2) the lockdowns receive Holocaust-level treatment in broader society. Til then, don’t care, my stance is that the chink virus isn’t real, was never real, and is just the government killing people and lying about the cause as an excuse to take away our freedom.

the chink virus

You've been warned about this before. Racial slurs are allowed if there is actually a point you're trying to make with them, but just dropping them as edgy emphasis to see how many jammies you can rustle is not.

There is a point I'm making with it- lots of people saw the virus reaction as pure overblown neuroticism to take away our freedom and make us into a communist country. These people calling it the 'chink virus' with 'panic mongering gay morning america propaganda' are far more representative of the median virus skeptic than motteizeans.

I remember my dad using those words to describe the narrative which, in his telling, was evidence against the nineteenth amendment due to its effect on women in march or april of 2020. This did not get much disagreement in the room- whether pro-Trump or anti-Trump(and there are anti-Trump Arklatex rednecks, or at least were), rich or poor, young or old. The view that people who actually gave a shit about a new and exciting form of the common cold(and that the deaths were mostly at the very least miscoded) because it was from China were a prime example of how stupid people voting is a prime danger to free people everywhere is what I had in mind. Perhaps my experiences and dialectical forms are unfamiliar to the motte.

The sentiment is one I see a lot of, even if not the specific word 'chink'. Open slurs are very much a hallmark of the edgy, online right, in my experience. Normie Republicans like my own (grand)parents think slurs are rude, but they're comfortable with the ideas they encompass -- the kung-flu is absolutely the fake and gay China virus pushed by the elites to cull the population, but you don't call it the chink virus.

This is probably a cultural difference- Arklatex rednecks are comfortable using the word nigger, assuming it isn't just a generic term for black but rather for those who warrant it due to bad behavior(this can be very, very broad, to the point of encompassing normal in black tribe actions which are simply seen as tasteless, like listening to rap music or having sagging pants). The idea that a non-white race can be another strike against an individual, but not enough to condemn a person by itself, is just in the groundwater.

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