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PaperclipPerfector  2mo ago (text post)   2955 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for September 21, 2025

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Is there a roving gang downvoting all the topics? Why is this at -1 and the Culture War thread at 0? Are we being brigaded or is someone just having fun?

Interestingly, I just noticed that the current Friday fun thread was downvoted for me. I was confused because I didn't deliberately do it, and I undid that. I can only guess that while scrolling I accidentally pressed the down arrow (I browse the motte on my phone). Maybe that's what others are doing and they don't happen to notice after the fact?

I've noticed a while ago that a disproportionate number of my posts have exactly a single -1 , and then whatever number of upvotes, except a small number of posts with zero downvotes and another small number of posts with higher numbers of downvotes (which are usually noticeably more controversial). At the time, I checked out some other posts and noticed a similar pattern. It seems likely to me that there was some kind of downvoting bot/person, but just one. However, looking at posts now the distribution actually seems more natural; Lots of 0 downvotes, a few -1 downvotes, even fewer -X. So maybe it was a fluke, maybe the bot got banned, hard to tell.

Well, it doesn't really matter for our poor robo-janny, and I don't think a handful of negative votes really constitutes brigading. Someone's just being a bitch.

Even back in the reddit days the main thread vote counts were very low. I've always wondered about that too.

Low is normal, who's going to upvote the automatic threads? But negative seems weird.

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