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Just some data to support the growing Overton window of sex: 40% of young women request being choked, up from 15% of 40-49 year old women. It's a huge explosion.
That said, I think it's absolutely brutal to suggest that blowjobs and Anal are a bridge too far. These sex acts are fantastically enjoyable. The former especially is absolutely a sex act that should be standard fucking equipment in any relationship with a penis.
This would be consistent with a previous finding that women are more turned-on by violent porn than men, although it'd be good if such results were replicated. Of course, naturally a softening euphemism emerged: "consensual aggression."
Even among normies now for a while, it's been well-memed that chicks are aroused by getting violently dominated (including choking), to a degree that would shock men who grew-up believing in gender egalitarianism and women's Wonderfulness. One can see here for a Thanos "Nani?!" meme example.
See also CNC (consensual nonconsent).
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Exhibit A in "why you cannot now turn around and blame women for being sluts and whores after the sexual revolution".
Guys, if it's going to be "women should be chaste and not sleep around but also if she's dating me I expect full service", you are asking for the impossible. Buggery is now something that is "fantastically enjoyable" and women should be prepared to give it up to their men. Or else?
Do you guys see what I am saying about the creep (as in "increase", not "creepy") in sexual expectations that ordinary men have, and why I think exposure to porn is responsible for a lot of this?
I would hope that if a couple is committing to a monogamous relationship i.e. to only ever taking sexual pleasure from each other from now on, then both sides would work hard to make sure that the other is feeling satisfied, which maybe sometimes means at least trying things. Partly out of obligation, partly because it would make someone who they hopefully care about happy. For the woman maybe sometimes it means blowjobs, for the man maybe it means roleplaying Mr. Darcy or Poldark or something else they find hideously embarrassing. And one would hope that equally each side would respect when their partner really doesn't want to do something. But a pre-emptive 'we're never doing that and don't you ask me again' seems a poor way to treat a partner.
Or to put it another way, sure, porn gives people more ideas of how to give their partner pleasure, some of which will turn out to be good in real life and some won't. This sounds like broadly a good thing to me if approached with care and affection, and I don't see what this has to do with promiscuity outside the relationship.
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I both partially agree with you and am frustrated that you're engaging with a strawman. Engaging in sex acts <> Promiscuity. Full stop. Of course men cannot have their cake and eat it too. Women that are easy to sleep with are easy to sleep with.
But to the other half of this - what is the limit of sexual activity you consider permissable? Because you're actually pushing back on Oral Sex here, not Anal. I'll veer into a less logical argument: people who think kissing the genitals of someone they love is beyond the pale are insane. I literally cannot conceive a relationship where something that low risk and high reward is off limits. It's unbelievably selfish.
The Algebra for anal is different, but not meaningfully so in a monogamous relationship.
Oral and anal should never be done with a woman you love and respect. It is degrading and wrong. If you want your wife to be a whore then you do you, but I wouldn’t want that.
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It depends. Maybe OP is referring to committed relationships instead of serial monogamy and hookups, I don't know. Either way, this is just an expression of the typical male fantasy that I've mentioned here before: the gracious, modest woman who isn't a dirty slut with anyone in the world but you.
If you're an average man starting a hetero relationship in our time and the woman is swearing up and down that she's never going to give blowjobs because those are so degrading etc., you're well advised to be suspicious, because there's a real possibility that she's lying.
If your argument is that blowjobs should be moved out of the Overton window altogether or be confined to the realms of prostitution and marital relationships, I'm willing to hear you out.
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