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I've been having some thoughts recently about the billionaires among us, some opinions, some takes even. My politics on this has evolved over time; at one point they were admirable titans of industry, then they were capitalist parasitic ticks, then they were a necessary part of the incentive structure that drives to economy, and now they are a bloated level of inefficiency preventing the market from functioning efficiently.
But over all this time, I've kinda synthesized a superstructure that I don't think is gonna change, that I think is not on the left right axis, but on another mysterious plane: I'm jealous of china. I think we're gonna have to steven universe meme one of these guys. I don't even really care who, and I don't care who does it. It could be Il Duce Trump, it could be General Secretary Mamdani, it could be some boring centrist whose name we don't know.
Anyone who imposes consequences on or limits the behaviors of the managing class would win my instant approval. This could just be because of my space autism getting triggered unimaginably by space-x getting fucking shackled to a corpse right before IPO/ Artemis being a big fucking waste of time and money* / Boeing doing boeing stuff, it could be the long 2008 hangover, it could be a thousand things.
I guess I'm just kinda over us deciding that once you reach a certain net worth, you are some sort of luminous being. You can go to pedo island and it's fine, you can do drugs that normies go to prison for an it's fine, you can fuck up critical national infrastructure and it's fine, you have infinite money when it's time to do what you want but somehow you have no money (or negative money!) when it's time to contribute to the public good.
I recall Luigi, and I recall the polling: people old enough to have been adults when a the post FDR wealth redistribution program was still around were very unfavorable; people who came into consciousness as the program was being fully unwound in the late 80s and 90s were split 50/50, and people who never experienced that social milieu were yelling "BASED BASED BASED!"
I really think that unless the uniparty plays it's cards right, the next realignment is not gonna be pretty for anyone. We need another FDR type to head that shit off like it's vanguardist communism in the 1930s, and at this point I don't think I care if they are left or right, they just need to be for the bottom and middle and even most of the top, and against the peak.
*Yes I know about pork. Pork can at least do something! highways can get build, parks are nice, and if we need to build bombs somewhere to it might as well be in bumfuck nowhere to give the nowhereians something to do other than meth.
Any ideology rooted in jealousy is likely to be catastrophic in its application to society.
Sure, but feminism and communism (the two most common ideologies of this type) can take a very long time to break that society, especially if that society is lucky enough.
We do have one example of how fast things fall apart, of course; South Africa's trajectory is a pretty clear object lesson on that.
Feminism and communism are the same ideology: the satanic destruction of natural hierarchy by those who imagine they can fill the shoes of their natural superiors. Children insisting upon receiving the full rights and privileges of adults would be a congruent third leg but at least so far almost nobody seems dumb enough to push for that. Then again it wasn't so long ago that the same would have been said of women. Or vagrants; or indigenes.
Communism is implicitly feminist; feminism is implicitly communist. These are branches, not separate trees.
Didn't I just see Kamala argue for lowering the voting age? Like, yesterday?
We did have that one guy (I think his username was something to do with baseball?) who wouldn't ever talk about anything other than child emancipation. I think his arguments were retarded, but really his biggest flaw is that he was unwilling to talk about literally any other topic, it was always the same points rehashed over and over and over.
That's because, iirc, he had other sockpuppets for other topics.
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And this is different than the GP's "natural order is man > woman, anything else is Satan"... how, exactly? (Though I get that JuliusBranson, whose alt that was, was/is just kind of like that- and to be fair mangoodwomanbad generally isn't used as a self top-level post, or when it is, it's not quite that naked.)
The trick about arguing against discrimination against children this way is that it's kind of like arguing against discrimination against those poor in worth more generally- and it might be justified simply on those grounds- it's simply what's in the water and thinking about it too much means you're only in it for the miscegenation, so to speak. (Actually, I guess tomboys also count as miscegenation under those rules.)
It might be helpful for you to draw up a list of the ways men are better than women, and the opposite; and then draw some conclusions about how societies might function. And the opposite. The exercise itself is likely to yield some interesting insights.
As a general rule if practically every historical human society seems to have agreed on something that seems crazy to you it might be time to stop and reflect.
What does this mean to you? What do you think it means to me? Consider Paradise Lost or maybe just the traditional understanding of what Satan, highest of the angels, did wrong.
People will notice that a truth-seeking site like this is 99% male and shrug and move on without considering why. This selective blindness used to bewilder me.
Instead of being coy I'll just say it forthrightly: You have been conditioned your entire life to never, ever think along this axis and it might be time to start asking questions about what's going on with that.
Does someone who thinks adults are superior to, and morally responsible for, children think that adults are good and children are bad? What would have to have gone wrong for someone to immediately leap to that conclusion?
What would a non-feminist modern western society actually look like to you? I'm honestly asking and not looking to argue, I just have a hard time modeling what you're actually wanting. Would a society like the 50s be acceptable to you or would it need explicit rules like the 1800s? Or something different to deal with modernity?
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