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IRAN WINS IRAN WAR
President Trump on Truth Social:
Iran foreign minister Araghchi confirms the agreement.
No regime change
Assurances of "safe" passage through the strait of Hormuz, but no assurance of "free" passage.
Absolutely no mention of uranium, enrichment, or nuclear weapons.
No mention of proxies.
Possible sanctions relief.
This is a ludicrous assessment. Iran caved to Trump’s threats, and if they don’t give him what he wants the bombings will pick right back up in two weeks. Trump played a game of chicken, and Iran blinked first.
The best part about this ceasefire is how easy it is to spin in either direction. Everyone gets to feel like a winner!
"Iran has won, they've proven beyond a doubt that they hold the ultimate card, closing the straits. They made the USA come to the table and knock off the bombing."
"Iran has gotten cucked, we bombed them so hard they cracked and agreed to open the straits without us having to do anything but sit back and bomb them, so much for their leverage"
"Iran agreed to open the straits that were already open before this debacle" is a laughable spin attempt.
If there are actualll tolls imposed on and paid by ships, and a material amount of that money actually ends up in accounts the Iranians can control as they see fit, I would call an Iranian win. But that's a lot of "if this then that" to get that stream of cashflows into Iran.
Also we'll see what they give up on re: nuclear and missile programs.
We shall see!
This might be the first time I've seen someone actually engage in Zeno's paradox as an argument.
I'm familiar with this paradox but unsure how it fits here
You said
But your list of "a lot of ifs" seems mostly like dividing the single statement "if they toll the strait" into an infinite number of steps
You could add an arbitrary number of similar "if" statements into any payment of money for services. "If the money is paid in legal tender," "if traffic doesn't decrease significantly," "if the world remains dependent on fossil fuel exports from the gulf" etc
Ahh
I guess I was trying to differentiate between "what was said now in this deal no one should trust" and it actually happening at scale.
"Don't count your chickens" type situation.
Especially because the language of the ceasefire seemed that the money would be split by Iran/Oman and be used for fixing shit that got blown up. So it's not clear to me if Iran will even get any money, even though all the pro-Iran/Anti-USA people are all doing this face right now 🤑
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