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I think it's the same with Black women. Black men like "yellow bones", White men like really dark ones (I thought the term was "blue bones", but every search engine suddenly disagrees). Asian men like Asian women with disturbingly pale neotenous faces and round eyes, White men prefer them sallower and with more... tsurime eyes.
It’s shocking when I realized that westerners do like women we consider hideous, with high cheek bones and those eyes. I thought that’s some sort of humiliation ritual until I found out that they’re somewhat consistent on pornhub.
Yes, high cheekbones are attractive in the west. So is a physically larger woman than the Chinese prefer.
But are you sure that Asian porn doesn’t attract a crowd that likes yellow skin and slantey eyes?
Maybe they do, maybe they don’t. Can’t tell either way, and you should know better than I do. Or not. I certainly don’t interact with enough Americans to say anything.
You have weird conceptions of China, being one of the only people who refer to us as chinaman on this website (a bit old fashioned, and if you don’t mean ill I don’t really mind). Maybe it’s due to the lack of interaction, which I understand.
I don’t think our people are physically smaller than yours, and judging by how latinized Americans are and will be, its surely favoring us.
America is still 60% white, and above 70% heritage American(blacks aren't that much smaller on average, except negritos which we don't have). Latin mestizos are short but rather... stout, there's a reason they do most of the heavy labor in America, and they make up most of the rest.
What's wrong with the term Chinaman? I know we don't say 'Mexicoman' or whatever, but we have lots of 'China buffet' and no 'Mexico restaurant', so it's at least consistent. I've never claimed to be fashionable. I kind of assume men looking for Asian porn specifically want women who look more... stereotypically Asiatic. It's probably a fetish. Otherwise why would they look for Asian porn? White women are more attractive(and Chinese beauty standards certainly seem to gesture in that direction).
"Chinaman" is historical usage that harkens back to the 19th century. It may not be a slur, exactly, but it's kind of like calling a black person a "Negro" - it is not plausible that you are unaware that it's no longer considered polite.
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No, America is already minority white, and the "official figures" that claim otherwise are deliberate lies.
I’m wondering what you’re basing this off, because most informed speculation is that ‘white’ as a social category underestimates thé percentage of phenotypically European cultural Americans.
As a further follow-up, here's Theo Wold on Twitter:
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First, as @OliveTapenade notes, the Census includes under "white" a lot of people who aren't. MENA, yes; but there's also a lot of "white" Hispanics who are actually mestizo.
Plus, the Census office themselves admit that they probably undercounted blacks and Hispanics while overcounting whites and Asians.
According to the Census numbers — if you believe any of them — there's about 191 million non-Hispanic whites, which, per the above, is almost certainly an overestimate.
But where the real issue lies is the denominator. They claim the total population is about 335 million — ≈321 citizens and legal residents, and ≈14 million illegal aliens.
But that last number is laughable; outright lies. Our new interim DHS secretary just admitted that about 20 million (at least) arrived under Biden alone. The actual number of illegals is at least 50 million, and probably closer to 100 million, for an actual population of 371-421 million. With that "191 million whites" figure (again, almost certain to actually be lower), that gives a percentage of 45-51%.
So, again, whites are almost certainly already a minority in the US.
That twenty million 'admission' doesn't sound like a reliable figure, but rather the secretary talking off the top of his head, possibly exaggerating?
I'd certainly expect some more credible evidence for the claim that a quarter of all residents in the United States are illegal immigrants.
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My understanding is that there's a case both ways?
On the one hand, 'white' in US census terms includes groups that are generally not considered white socially, in the US - most notably Middle Easterners are counted as white, and most Americans would not consider an Egyptian Muslim to be white. According to the census categories, an Afghan is white, and I think the popular use of race is different to that.
On the other hand, US racial categories tend to undercount whites otherwise. A person with one white parent and one black parent is counted as black. A person with three white grandparents and one black grandparent is counted as black. It's not literally a one-drop rule, but as a rule of thumb, if there is a mixture of any kind, it defaults to the non-white race.
This is also likely to be exaggerated by changing patterns of racial identification. To put it more simply, fifty years ago, if you could identify as white, you did, because that was more socially prestigious. Today, if you can identify as non-white, you probably identify as non-white, because now that's the most prestigious option. It isn't everywhere, but certainly in elite contexts, if you are otherwise-white-passing but have just enough of a distant family connection to claim to be black or Asian-American or Native American or ambiguously brown some other way, you probably do.
The census has changed as well - this relates to the above, but just by itself, the addition of multi-racial or mixed-race categories (now apparently 10.2% of the population) is going to depress other categories. It is thus possible for the racial categories on the census to change significantly even with the exact same population.
What is the 'real' white proportion of the US population? I don't know. It doesn't really have an objective answer, because the borders of the category 'white' are often shifting, and different people put those lines in different places. If you pressed me I'd guess that, broadly speaking, white people, are somewhere around 60-70% of the US population, and any answer more precise than that is going to require both stipulating a narrower definition of white (and good luck finding one with majority support) and collecting data that nobody has actually collected.
Note that in 2024 Middle Easterners and North Africans were officially separated out from whites. This change will be implemented in the 2027 American Community Survey and the 2030 census.
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Inflammatory claims require evidence.
What part of "the "official figures" that claim otherwise are deliberate lies" was unclear?
The 2020 Census is a pack of lies, and the Census Office is a bunch of politically-motivated propagandists who cannot be trusted.
It's a bit confusing to engage in evidence-free raging in one thread but then point to the evidence in a different thread.
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Honestly I don't know. It seems innocuous, but media and my liberal friends keep telling me it's not a good thing to be called Chinaman. Maybe for historical reasons but I'm not building railways and we have our country in order again, so why do I care. Granted they're quite sensitive with words and I personally don't mind harmless racism; it's endearing sometimes. I've encountered some, but at least from what I observed on my Transamerica trip, middle Americans are generally friendly and trustworthy people if a bit blunt, not the racist hillbillies my liberal circle usually insinuates through their jokes and chit chats. But what do I know? I'm not going to disagree with them on English.
I honestly don't think that look is stereotypically Chinese. Mongolians yes, Chinese northerners maybe but not really. At least not the non-malnourished Chinese.
Certainly white beauty standards spread to all corners of the world where there are things that can be called civilization. I'm sure our beauty standards are influenced to some extent, but as you noticed the slim anorexic neotenous look is not something Americans exported to us. You don't prefer that look anyway.
I don’t claim to be the expert on what Chinese/mongolian phenotypes are and how they contrast, but somebody looking for a Mongolian look searching ‘Chinese’ seems very, very believable to me, because they’re probably not the experts either.
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The problem is historical use of the word. The literal parse of the word doesn't matter.
The historical use of the word was to refer to men from China. It wasn't a slur any more than "Negro" is (though like that word and many others it can be used as one), it's just that any old-fashioned race word is automatically racist.
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It's important to note that "stereotypically Asian" is more than just weirdly-shaped eyes and
<del>yellow</del><ins>slightly-less-red</ins>skin. I think it's far from impossible that many Asian fetishists are just into skinny women, but they find that searching for Asian porn is a more surefire way to find skinny women than trying to use the search term "skinny".More options
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