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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026

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India has more genetic diversity within country than like even an Englishmen to a Chinaman. IQ studies show much of the population is in competition with Africa for lowest IQ population. You can’t have Indian or Pakistani immigration into your country without having heavy filtering.

I do not see what genetic diversity has to do with any of this. It seems to me that both you and @2rafa are trying to deflect attention from the real issue.

I think I speak for many on the right when I say that I don't care about the genetic diversity of the subcontinent or what the IQ of the median Sikh is. What I care about is that a young man got stabbed and the police displayed no obligation nor inclination to help him. Everything else is a fucking distraction.

India has more genetic diversity within country than like even an Englishmen to a Chinaman. citation needed

It’s factual. From Grok Key Metrics: F_ST (Fixation Index) F_ST measures genetic differentiation between populations (0 = identical, 1 = completely different; values are usually small in humans). • Within India: F_ST between major South Asian groups ranges from 0.02 to 0.15. Overall pooled F_ST 0.072 (95% CI 0.061–0.084). Tribal vs. caste/non-tribal groups can reach 0.15. North Indian Indo-European speakers show high heterozygosity; isolated tribes show lower diversity and higher homozygosity due to endogamy.  • Between Han Chinese and Europeans/Caucasians: Typically 0.10–0.12. This is a standard continental-scale differentiation value. Some Indian subgroups are as genetically distant from each other as Europeans are from East Asians. This stems from: • Ancient Ancestral North Indian (ANI) component (related to West Eurasians, Middle Easterners, Central Asians). • Ancient Ancestral South Indian (ASI) component (distinct, with deep South Asian roots). • Later admixtures (e.g., Iranian-related farmers, Steppe pastoralists). • Long-term endogamy (caste/tribe-specific marriages for 2,000+ years), founder effects, and geographic isolation, which amplify differences.  India’s 5,000 ethno-linguistic groups, plus waves of migration since 50,000 years ago (mostly from one major Out-of-Africa pulse, with later inputs), create a mosaic. Indians harbor significant unsurveyed variation and higher Neanderthal ancestry diversity than many groups.  East Asia/China Contrast Han Chinese (the majority “Chinamen” reference) show low internal diversity. F_ST within Han subgroups is tiny (0.0002–0.001 or so between North/South Han). China overall is far more homogeneous than India or Europe due to historical expansions and less deep structure.  Europe has moderate internal structure (e.g., North-South or Finland vs. Southern Italy F_ST ~0.01–0.023), but still less than India’s extremes.

Not sure why it copy and pasted like that.

Did you copy-paste Grok output? This might be correct or approximately correct. But I have low confidence in raw LLM output. I use these things at work and they say weird stuff and I demand a citation and they cannot find one. I'm pretty skeptical of these things.

LLM textdumping is for midwits who dont know what theyre talking about and using word vomit to overload discussion via gish gallop. Just chadgif and say you dont care.

Aren’t they usually fine for summarizing research? Ya sure I did the Reddit thing of just googling and pasting first link as source. But I do think the AIs give a generally ok overview.

They are okay for summarizing research. But if you think it may be wrong, it can't back its facts up. Or you tell it you think it is wrong so it pivots with equal confidence to a new set of claims more in line with your demands.

Your post well could be correct. But with low confidence.

IQ studies show much of the population is in competition with Africa for lowest IQ population

Is this largely a caste thing? Are there differences between regions (beyond differences in caste composition)?

I believe so, yes. A Tamil Brahmin and a Kashmiri Brahmin and a Gujarati Brahmin are completely different groups. You can't even reliably tell which is which via physiognomy either. It's perfectly possible for one Tamil Brahmin to be 5 shades darker than an Ethiopian, and another to pass for a White guy, even if they're from the same town. The US typically gets this cohort.

Wouldn't know genetically but just eyeballing Southern Indians and Northern Indians is pretty trivial in terms of features and size

Genetically humans are 99% chimp, 60% banana, 80% lizard. We can absolutely have nontrivial genetic difference with someone else and it wouldn't fucking matter at this gene level. Indians harping about how different their pure guju brahmin blood is against filthy bihari dalits is indian desperation to larp as something other than what they are. As if being different from a dalit makes one closer to the latin mediterranean or arab phenotypes indians continually pretend they are something they are not: subcontinentals that foreigners do not care to nor derive useful meaning from differentiating.

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