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When teenaged boys/young men lament being invisible to teenaged girls/women, they're told it's their problem, that it's a skill issue, and that it's up to them to level-up and Git Gud if they wish to Be Seen and Cared About as potential mates by teenaged girls/young women.
This principle can be generalized. If teenaged girls/young women wish to Be Seen and Cared About as more than "tits'n'ass,” it’d be up to them to level-up and Git Gud.
However, given how common it is that teenaged girls/young women choose to wear outfits that show off and draw attention to their tits and/or asses, choose to take pictures of themselves or have pictures taken of them posing to display their tits and/or asses prominently—their revealed preferences are that they rather enjoy being sex objects and being seen for their "tits'n'ass."
Sloot, we're never going to agree on this. I do wish girls didn't go for tits'n'ass, but they've been conditioned that this is what boys want and this is how they should be and we've moved on culturally so that wearing skimpy is the new default. And the boys on here arguing about nubile and young aren't wanting modestly-dressed women who will only hold their hands until the wedding night and no divorce ever.
We're both ordering the waves to retreat and neither of us will have that happen.
Conditioned by who? Is it conditioning or is it what boys actually want? If we assume that's what boys actually want (which I don't think is fully true, they also want emotional affection etc, of course from suitably attractive girls), does that mean they should get it? Are girls simply "conditioned" to do whatever, without their own agency? Only boys are supposed to have agency and overcome their nature? If girls are not able to deal with the incentive landscape provided by unconstrained gender-mixed interactions, parties, social media, intra-female competition arms races, then what?
There used to be a counter-force to that "conditioning", mainly provided by the father saying that the daughter is not allowed to wear such a skimpy outfit. It was then decided that this prevents female liberation and empowerment and is oppressive patriarchy and has to be abolished. Now what?
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