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We know this forum is spiritually leftist because if constantly fails the moral circles heatmap meme.
J.D. Vance is actually one of us. And yet, when he runs in 2028 against a retarded communist, I expect most people on this board to support the retarded communist.
Only @magicalkittykat is a true rightist (albeit pretending to be a leftist).
The rest of us are leftists, pretending to be rightists, parroting blackpill propaganda that we read on Twitter from some guy with a Roman statue as his avatar who is almost certainly a jobless virgin.
In all seriousness, if you're on the right, and J.D. Vance isn't your guy, I don't know what to tell you. You will never be happy. Good luck finding a supermodel to marry. Life is going to go badly for you and you probably deserve it.
Man, I'm not even American.
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...does not allow consensus-building language, especially when it is about "this forum." This comment is also bad because it is antagonistic and perhaps sarcastic. You have already been warned to speak plainly. Now you are getting banned for a day. Engage in thoughtfully good faith or that will escalate quickly.
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If it wasn't for the absolute state of the federal NDP (and by association all of the provincial ones) and the Liberal party, I'd vote a lot lefter than I do. My heart is left-wing, and I just wish there was an easy and sane way to act on that.
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Nah. You'd expect a lot more "Guys, we have to join the web of supporters of the fugitive child molester! It definitely won't destroy our electoral chances while sending our souls to hell!" false flags if that was the case. Instead, so far at least, I've only seen the one...
Nah, it's spiritually focused on truth. It was founded by fans of an actual retarded-communist-may-be-the-lesser-of-two-evils leftist, just one who became popular with rightists too for prizing truth above leftism.
I know emotionally our hunter-gatherer hearts really feel like there's Our Tribe versus Their Tribe, and if only we can get all one hundred of us to collectively stick our fingers in our ears and pretend Big Chief and Little Chief have no faults then morale will stay high and Our Tribe will win, but that's just not how it works. With a hundred million people there's going to be someone who won't go along with the ruse. The people you really need to win over are swing voters who are never going to give Little Chief the kind of love that you're wasting on him (instead of sublimating it into Yankees fandom or something, like you're supposed to do to keep your head clearer for politics), and a "who cares about a couple molested kids anyway" attitude does not win over swing voters.
It doesn't even seem to be a winning play among many MAGA voters. Remember when that was all about stuff like avoiding war with Iran and exposing child abusers like Epstein's network? But now here we are. You beat the retarded communist last time, but the victory was narrow and Pyrrhic, and there's a lot of time and even more crazy developments coming up in between now and 2028. So, if you want to pull it off again, then we may need an actual competitive primary that filters out bad candidates, not just a princeling's coronation. You might think it would be impossible to sink so low that normal people will prefer the kind of candidates that the Democrats come up with these days, and it really should be impossible, but it's not. It's really not. It's not even impossible for the modern Republicans to just sink that low by default, in the absence of conscious effort to avoid it, much less in the presence of conscious effort to resist avoiding it.
Demented communist, surely? And the communist whore who replaced the demented communist.
None of the recent Presidential candidates were stupid enough, or pretended to be stupid enough (Hi Dubya) for "retarded" to be funny.
Biden may have been a bit demented (if only in the "sundowning", "good days and bad days" sense), but I was referring to Harris (endorsed in the link) as "retarded". She obviously wasn't literally retarded (or even subnormal, I'd bet) by "average human being" standards, but she kinda was by "average human being who should risk campaigning for President of the US" standards. I get that the competition was a guy who thinks the dementia screener he's been acing is an IQ test, but my advice for Republicans could be flipped around for Democrats and would still be 100% applicable: the goal is not to hang on to a candidate who seems to be a tiny bit better than the competition, the goal is to come up with a good candidate.
(Well, to be fair, the goal is to come up with someone who would be a good candidate and a good President, which is harder - Harris was probably even worse by the second criterion, even if Trump again set us a low bar)
Granted, by 2024 it was too late for the Democrats to come up with a good candidate, perhaps because the task of "convince the declining elderly person of how badly he's declining" leads to a veridical paradox where the better your evidence is the harder it is to use. But in 2020 it probably wasn't too late for Biden's team to ensure they filled the "person who becomes President in an emergency" slot with a person who would definitely be a top choice for more than (literally, not a typo:) 844 of their party's voters. 20% of US presidents have died or stepped down in the middle of a term and left their Vice President in charge. This is not a wild unforeseeable happenstance, and in modern politics the "don't betray Big Chief!" attitude is bipartisan enough that whoever's in charge when the next election rolls around is generally the presumptive nominee, even in "normal" cases where the handoff isn't mid-campaign.
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He married and Indian and wrote a book shitting on working class white people. He also was a never Trumper. Why am I supposed to like this guy again?
Quite honestly “saved by an Indian” and not married. I’m not a “no-Indian” person I just want fewer. Part of assimilation is interbreeding and grabbing a hold of a highly talented but lower class white is a great wait to assimilate if you were a high-caste Indian. Usha’s generation of Indians were highly filtered which is a lot different than H1-B mills people hate.
I think it’s dishonesty to call his book shitting on working class-white people. It’s probably even wrong to call them working-class as his communities drug addiction and social issues were perhaps more describable as welfare-class whites. Appalachia is a weird white place because it’s undergone selection pressure against intelligence and good qualities. Everyone talented left that region including JDVance cousins and uncles.
Many of us were Never Trumpers. I was never quite a Never Trumper but in 2016 I was not a fan. You can’t exclude people from your political coalition who were not initial supporters.
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Yeah, I admit that he's going to have a hard time winning the online under 30 white nationalist vote. Fortunately, these comprise like 0.1% of the population and are furthermore extremely low propensity voters.
So, fortunately, people who are mad that JD Vance married a beautiful Indian woman and had four beautiful children with her don't matter electorally. Speaking of which, for at least the second election cycle in a row, Nick Fuentes is supporting Democrats.
I'll be voting for J.D. Vance, who is the smartest politician we've seen in our lifetimes, who knows what time it is, and who actually wants to win instead of mining internet outrage for likes.
What time is it? India's time? What's JD Vance going to conserve, the high rate of Indians migrating into the US? The H1B visa pipeline?
JD Vance is not a conservative (neither is Trump, for that matter); that's exactly why I'd select him over the candidates the Ds will be fielding, which are.
This is kind of what the statement "leftists pretending to be rightists" is getting at, of course (whereas Blue/Ds are rightists pretending to be leftists; feminism and the destruction of growth potential for aesthetic reasons are inherently conservative positions).
I'm tired of people like myself, who are better than most, not actually doing the things that people who are better are required to do; that makes me a reformer and by the classical definition that means my "true place" is on the left.
That's kind of what I'd be hoping he reforms. The thing that complicates analysis is that liberal-tarians just want cheaper labor and don't give a shit about preserving the soul of the country, while conservatives want it because they believe returning the land to the Indians is good to cleanse the soul of the nation of Racism (and like Columbus, cannot distinguish between the dot Indians and the feather Indians- the soul-cleansing is the root motivation, so it doesn't really matter).
If you consider the country and its economic opportunity as an inheritance, I see a father selling it for a get-rich-quick scheme and a mother selling it to a spiritual guru. That's what the "center" exists to push back on.
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This is definitely not .1% of the population. And it’s developing as the activists class behind MAGA.
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While JD has demonstrated that he wants to win and is willing to debase himself in pursuit of this goal, he has yet to demonstrate that he is capable of such winning.
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