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Some time last year - I believe it was before the exodus from Reddit - there was a post in the Friday Fun Thread asking the question: âWhat is the greatest rock song of all time?â I canât find the post now, but the OP was asking whether AC/DCâs âYou Shook Me All Night Longâ is the correct answer to the question, and various users submitted different interesting arguments and alternative answers. Most people seemed to agree on certain baseline criteria: Would early rock & roll musicians such as Chuck Berry recognize the song as being within the same genre as the one they were writing in? Does the song contain the specific elements of rock music - not only the familiar instrumentation, but also the lyrical themes (sex/romance, rebellion, partying, strong emotions, etc.) - that have given the genre such a mass appeal? Is it well-known, influential, timeless, and broadly popular with a wide audience? (i.e. Itâs not too heavy, too abrasive, or too proggy to make it off-putting or inaccessible for a general audience.) The OPâs choice of song seems like a very promising one, but many other good answers were given, as were many arguments why âYou Shook Me All Night Longâ either fails one or more criteria, or is otherwise not the best answer to the question.
For my part, I missed the boat on the thread and only saw it after it was too late to meaningfully contribute, but I was surprised to see that (unless I overlooked it) nobody brought up the song that I would have suggested: âSweet Child Oâ Mineâ by Guns âNâ Roses.
Now, letâs see how this song performs on various metrics:
Is it well-known, influential, timeless, and broadly popular with a wide audience?
Obviously, yes. Weâre talking about a multi-platinum-selling single, consistently ranking on various publicationsâ lists of greatest songs of all time. This song is ubiquitous in many different radio formats and is catchy enough to be played at weddings and in grocery stores, while still maintaining credibility among the snobbier rock critics. I am supremely confident that in fifty years, people will still be bumping âSweet Child Oâ Mineâ, and that it will not be considered overly dated or cheesy at that point.
Does it have the elements of rock & roll that people find appealing, in terms of lyrical content, melodic/structural content, and instrumentation?
Again, yes. Itâs a romantic song about loving a beautiful woman, but doesnât feel cloying or juvenile. Itâs mid-tempo, pulsing enough to dance to or even bang your head at times, but not too fast or heavy to turn casual listeners away. It is beautifully melodic at times, but has some heavy glam-metal kick, especially in the final minute or so of the song, once they kick things up a notch after the âwhere do we go nowâ section. Pop-hating 80âs metalheads and genial melody-loving grannies and kids can all enjoy this song.
Is it recognizably ârock and rollâ and would Chuck Berry agree with that categorization?
This is the metric where, arguably, âSweet Child Oâ Mineâ is pushing the limits. First off, the song is long - almost six minutes! Most prototypical rock songs are much tighter and more compact; âYou Shook Me All Night Longâ is a brisk three-and-a-half-minutes long, pretty much the golden mean for a rock song. âSweet Childâ is also more complex than the classic rock formula; it arguably doesnât have a traditional âriffâ, and its structure is more varied than the classic âverse-chorus-bridge-chorusâ structure of early rock songs. It straddles the boundary between ârockâ and its offspring genre âheavy metalâ; itâs soft enough and melodic to be played on mainstream rock or even pop radio stations, but its guitars are at times heavy enough, and Axl Roseâs vocals piercing enough, to almost push it over the line into a genre that Chuck Berry would think has âgone too farâ. So, going strictly by this criteria, âSweet Childâ has failed the test and has to be disqualified.
However, I would argue that âSweet Child Oâ Mineâ strikes the perfect balance between pushing the limits of the genre while still remaining rock and roll at heart. This song is challenging to perform - the famous guitar intro was originally a string-skipping exercise that guitarist Saul âSlashâ Hudson used to play as a warm-up/Ă©tude to keep his chops up, the vocals are outside of the range of most male singers, with Axl Rose wailing out, if Iâm identifying the note correctly, an E5 at a couple of points, and donât sleep on Duff McKaganâs limber, syncopated bass line - but does not feel show-offy or intentionally overcomplicated in the way that a lot of instrumentally-difficult rock music often does. This isnât something that your average group of teenage neophytes and musical amateurs could get together and play in their garage, but itâs something they could aspire to learn without having to go through music school and years of meticulous training to master.
Itâs miles ahead of âSweet Little Sixteenâ in terms of creativity and musicianship, but itâs not trying to be Dream Theater and isnât primarily about showing everyone how great they are at playing their instruments. The average non-musician listening to the song might be vaguely aware of the impressive musicianship - Slashâs solo definitely shreds, in a way thatâs obvious enough to impress non-guitarists - but itâs not the main takeaway or the main point. Itâs just a kick-ass, catchy, anthemic rock song, and Iâm personally willing to say that on all of the relevant criteria, it might well represent the pinnacle of the genre.
Anyway, thatâs my contribution to a months-old, dead conversation topic, the OP of which will probably never see this and canât respond. I thought it was a fun enough question to maybe resurrect here for another go-around, though.
Sweet Child o mine is definitely a top contender but I think Free Bird is still the GOAT đŠ
I donât think the length matters here, weâre talking about the greatest rock song, not the most average, and 6 minutes has a Greatness that 3 minutes lacks.
What's the most average, in your opinion?
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Agree with you on Free Bird. I also think Bohemian Rhapsody deserves a nod.
Am I the only person who loathes Free Bird? It's just so God damned slow, and every time I hear the guitar warble all I can see in my mind is a desert highway from the back of a station wagon, just endless tedium and apathy.
Keep in mind that neither I nor my parents have ever owned a station wagon, so I don't think it's just that my parents previously owned @FiveHourMarathon's old car with the busted tape deck and we took it on a road trip through the desert, and the memory is tainting my listening pleasure. But the image in my head is definitely a station wagon, and it's definitely going through the desert, I want to say in Wyoming or maybe the Northern Territory. I would interrogate this phenomenon further except then I'd have to listen to Free Bird and I'd rather jam knitting needles into my ears (I lasted 15 seconds listening to it for this post.)
It could be a station wagon, but it could also be a convertible:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lho97LPe4os
See, Rob Zombie gets it! Wait, that actually hurts my credibility doesn't it?
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Good God I can't stand Bohemian rhapsody.
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âBohemian Rhapsodyâ is too far outside of the expected parameters of ârock and rollâ. Way too many non-rock elements. Fails the Chuck Berry test, in the same way that âStairway To Heavenâ does. Itâs a great song, and technically itâs a rock song, but itâs not a great rock song.
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