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Well, if you followed the implied rules here, dating apps would be completely useless for men -- just that last point is enough; there's not much point in dating if you're not going to meet in person and there will 99% of the time be some reluctance expressed to take that step. But of course rules or not, Chad isn't going to follow them (and he'll usually get away with it) so nothing changes.
If someone doesn't want to meet in person, why not just move on?
Because women on OLD apps don't say they aren't interested. They say they'd love to meet up, but they can't this weekend. Or the day after. Or next weekend. But they'd love to see you and grab coffee. Then they just stop responding.
A well intentioned man might think this is a problem to be solved. Meanwhile they just did a harassment.
Unironically this is a male skill issue thinking that communication is only literal and verbal. Men who are confused about this need to get good, not only for dating but because this is an important generalizable life skill.
Women don’t “play hard to get” by failing to make or keep plans. An interested women, shy or forward, slutty or chaste, of any culture or nationality, will make an effort to meet with you. A woman “playing hard to get” will let you in on the game. It’s mutual flirting and it will feel like that.
If she cancels once and doesn’t take the initiative to make a new plan, she’s not interested. Move on, don’t be pathetic.
Of course when a guy like Andrew Tate says this and actively tries to teach males the skills to achieve these he gets hammered.
So I dunno where you expect them to learn the skills if the teaching of the skills is socially verboten, and the opposite message (believe women and take them at their word) is what saturates society.
From their fathers, maybe. But with an increase in the number of men growing up raised by single mothers, there really is no other place they can even see a role model demonstrate this for them.
Considering he is facing multiple human trafficking, sex slavery and rape charges a magic eight ball would be a better source.
Good luck finding a 'better source' who is allowed to keep a platform with any reach.
They did it to Jordan Peterson, too.
Which is entirely the problem. "Positive" masculine role models are suppressed, so you end up with ONLY guys like Tate who are willing to keep speaking on the topic and fight through the backlash.
You want Andrew Tate to go away, give us someone who can say what he says without the boorish personality and background to with it.
What specifically is it that Tate says that you find value in?
I'lI give you two people that I have considered helpful positive sources of information on dating, sex, etc - one focused on heterosexual dating, the other LGBT (but often with universally useful advice). I recall former notorious cad and "fratire" author Tucker Max's "Mate: Become The Man Women Want" book and podcast having quite useful advice for self improvement, along with an emphasis on explcitly spelling out how different male behavior can be threatening to women, how to be conscious of and avoid such behavior, what to do instead, and knowing when one has consent. He hasn't been deplatformed for it. Dan Savage is another guy with good dating, sex and self improvement advice who's been running columns for decades. Both dated around a lot before being happily married, have kids, etc. Tucker is more right wing, Savage more left wing.
He is willing to tell men that they aren't, in fact, the problem with society, and that they are in fact capable of becoming better than they are now through hard work and perseverance, and that they don't have to sacrifice their personal/masculine preferences in the process.
And more specifically, he points out that the culture IS in fact slanted heavily against men, and that they have to get up and do great things anyway.
And for whatever the hell it is worth, he's actually been in professional fights, so there's some level of authenticity to the persona.
To me that is perhaps the major issue with most 'manosphere' influencers. They're not particularly capable of backing up the braggadocio. They project the image they need to but that is it.
Vs. somebody who has been in the shit and gotten punched in the face and pushed through it.
The very fact that you're recommending as alternatives to read books written by persons whose only real achievement of note is writing books indicates you kind of misunderstand what males look for in a role model or guide.
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