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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
My first thought would be flood 'em but given this is a desert the best solution is probably to ignore them. Forget fighting in Gaza, forget even bothering to bomb Gaza. Instead shut off the water, shut off the electricity, mine the port, and wait.
The siege ends when all hostages have been safely returned and whoever masterminded the attack delivered before the Knesset in chains.
The problem is that ends with a humanitarian crisis, Israel as a pariah state, the US (under the next administration, probably) cutting them off, and then the Arabs starting another full scale war against them (also with Iran's backing) with them surviving or not on their own. And maybe some areas of glass desert.
No one, including the democrats, actually cares about Arab lives. For that matter the Arabs don’t care about Arab lives. Israel could get away with killing well north of a million civilians without repercussion beyond the level of a strongly worded note.
No one, including the democrats, actually cares about Arab lives.
To paraphrase Stonetoss, "Arab lives?"
This is all about punishing Israelis, and Arabs are a convenient cudgel. We've seen it hundreds of times before: Israel bombs a mortar site, which was oddly located in an elementary school cafeteria 30 minutes after dropping pamphlets saying in 10 languages, "LEAVE THE SCHOOL WE ARE GOING TO DROP A BOMB." And then they "mysteriously" don't leave (don't mind the gunman at the door), and now a mortar and 20 kids are bombed, yet CNN's cameras can, again "mysteriously" only capture the dead bodies of the kids.
Ben Shapiro also makes the point that they drop "knock bombs" before the real bombs, the only purpose of those bombs is to shake the building to tell civillians to evacuate.
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What's a good anti-tunnel strategy for the Israelis? A few things immediately come to mind:
I think the tunnels are the main infrastructure advantage for Hamas, and Israel will need to confront them directly somehow.
My first thought would be flood 'em but given this is a desert the best solution is probably to ignore them. Forget fighting in Gaza, forget even bothering to bomb Gaza. Instead shut off the water, shut off the electricity, mine the port, and wait.
The siege ends when all hostages have been safely returned and whoever masterminded the attack delivered before the Knesset in chains.
The problem is that ends with a humanitarian crisis, Israel as a pariah state, the US (under the next administration, probably) cutting them off, and then the Arabs starting another full scale war against them (also with Iran's backing) with them surviving or not on their own. And maybe some areas of glass desert.
No one, including the democrats, actually cares about Arab lives. For that matter the Arabs don’t care about Arab lives. Israel could get away with killing well north of a million civilians without repercussion beyond the level of a strongly worded note.
To paraphrase Stonetoss, "Arab lives?"
This is all about punishing Israelis, and Arabs are a convenient cudgel. We've seen it hundreds of times before: Israel bombs a mortar site, which was oddly located in an elementary school cafeteria 30 minutes after dropping pamphlets saying in 10 languages, "LEAVE THE SCHOOL WE ARE GOING TO DROP A BOMB." And then they "mysteriously" don't leave (don't mind the gunman at the door), and now a mortar and 20 kids are bombed, yet CNN's cameras can, again "mysteriously" only capture the dead bodies of the kids.
Ben Shapiro also makes the point that they drop "knock bombs" before the real bombs, the only purpose of those bombs is to shake the building to tell civillians to evacuate.
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