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fmac
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10hr ago
I'm not saying the media isn't biased, I'm just saying they're making the media's job very very easy, which makes me think they're bad at this
Which is what I keep saying
fmac
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10hr ago
you can simply fix what I'm reacting to and I won't be a reactionary any more
I agree! That's why they're going after farms and hotels, two of the biggest employers of illegal immigrants and the main reason they come to America.
Oh wait, they explicitly said they aren't...
fmac
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10hr ago
That's fair enough, I guess I'd just hope you'd ask for more in general from your government and society
America is really down bad if that's where people's standard is lol
fmac
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10hr ago
No I think it's retarded because it looked bad and doesn't help them achieve their stated goals.
The economist shows his approval on immigration is down to -10% now versus +10% in January. Nate Silver shows him going from ~+9% to -4% with now (just) over 50% disapproval.
fmac
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10hr ago
the economist shows his approval on immigration is down to -10% now versus +10% in January. Nate Silver shows him going from ~+9% to -4% with now (just) over 50% disapproval.
So it's clearly not making Americans like it more!
hydroacetylene
10hr ago
Or farms
Hotels looks like straight forwards corruption to me, but there isn’t really a replacement for illegal labor on farms. This would be a principled exception literally anyone makes. You can get farm work done by taking advantage of wage differentials(these guys think they’re making n Dakota oil money) or through forced labor. There is no other option.
Illegal immigrants will deport themselves if they can't make money to send home, they're not here for fun.
Correct, they’re not here for fun. But, the average daily wage for the paid in cash underclass in the US is similar to the average weekly wage for the normal working class in Mexico, which is the wealthiest of the countries these people are coming from. I really don’t think you’re going to solve the economic case with a few laws when señora cleaning one house a week for cash makes more than she would with a full time job in the old country. You’d have to make ATM’s illegal.
fmac
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10hr ago
I would prefer 0 montages posted by law enforcement to tiktok, to be clear
fmac
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10hr ago
We know the potential of the online left to find, doxx, and terrorize people. It's not even up for debate. They will terrorize ICE agents' families. The tools and collective effort that anti-ICE and anti-Trumpers have at their disposal when it comes to identifying, locating and terrorizing these people is massive, and it will be an all-hands-on-deck effort. To them, they would be doxxing Nazis, so it would be for a noble cause.
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they don't do this to cops, even during the 2020 summer of love
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just arrest people who do this
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if ICE was in any way sympathetic to the median American, doxxing them would make the Dems look terrible, and prosecuting them would make Republicans look great. If half the country is fine with them getting doxxed, you have fucked up massively, and only have yourself to blame.
Totalitarianit
10hr ago
I think I answered this in my other reply to you, but if there's something you want me to address more specifically, let me know.
hydroacetylene
10hr ago
If I were sitting on a jury trying a man for killing an ATF agent in the course of his official duties, I would attempt to nullify it.
There are plenty of individual anti-ice protestors who do things that deserve arrest. But most of them are simply annoying. It’s not illegal to have a dumb sign or be a Karen. AFAIK the guard in Chicago is about making Abbott look strong and flattering Trump’s ego. Chicago is not in a state of revolt.
Controversial Twitch streamer Hasan Piker allegedly uses a shock collar on his dog on stream.
It is narrative shorthand for a villain - to emphasize his wickedness and complete removal from the family of man - to kick a dog for no reason other than vicious spite. While on air last night, expounding upon his hatred of America and its violence and imperialism, his dog Kaya stands up behind him. A Tibetan mastiff/guardhound mix, the streamer purchased her a long time ago as a puppy. Nowadays, she spends the majority of her waking existence sitting behind him, in camera as a prop during his streams. As soon as he sees that she's moving off the bed, he shouts at her, and reaches for something off-camera. Immediately afterwards, the dog yelps as she tries to lay back down.
It is obviously a shock collar that is being used. No amount of denial or snarky comments can get anyone to believe that their lying eyes can see any differently. And if you think that's an overstatement - I invite you to see the footage for yourself. The fact that the man still has a career after saying "America deserved 9/11" is testament to the country's tolerance for extreme left-wing radicalization, but this might very well be the thing that can take him down. Americans love their dogs: creatures of innocent, adoring love for man. The fact that Hasan uses his dog to sustain his flagging social media presence - in emotes and in donation messages - is a transparent attempt to associate his vile personality with an animal's emotional resonance.
You can tell a lot about a character of a man by his treatment of creatures who depend entirely upon his good will and care for their lives. By this metric, Hasan is a despotic and evil blackguard. One hopes that these clips are shown at tonight's congressional hearing to the Twitch CEO. At the very least, it will be entertaining to see how the man deflects for his pet demagogue. Perhaps, in a peace offering, he can offer to collar the streamer?
fmac
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10hr ago
Now farm and slaughterhouse workers are probably the least problematic ones, when native citizens have the choice between doing those jobs and jail they choose jail. Somebody has to pick the crops and slaughter the chickens and thats a very reasonable principled exception.
I'm so confused what your view on immigration is. "I'm fine with immigrants if they do shitty jobs"
So then you're fine with the status quo? What % of illegal immigrants are gang bangers?
07mk
10hr ago
but it would be much less effective if ICE were acting in an extremely professional and regimented manner, they aren't.
Hard disagree. At best, it would be infinitesimally less effective, small enough that you'd need a magnifying glass to tell the difference. Of course, it's impossible to properly ascertain what an alternative universe would look like, but, based on the general reception that these official ICE-released videos got, I'd wager that the effect was net-neutral at worst in terms of Americans' perception of ICE.
yofuckreddit
10hr ago
I agree 100%, it'd be almost nonsensical as a highschooler
hydroacetylene
10hr ago
I don’t think that’s what mainstream dems think, especially in places like Chicago which are dominated by the black political machine. I think some of them are confused about the asylum seeker thing but most of them believe that being on US soil entitles a person to rights and that illegal immigration just isn’t such an important problem to violate those rights.
fmac
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10hr ago
They're not US citizens
The concern is if you have law enforcement doing wack crazy shit, what if they accidentally pick up a US citizen and because they're operating at a level of "wack and stupid" they get shipped off? We should demand more competency from the government.
FAFO, lawbreakers
Again, what if the government makes you a lawbreaker? This is such myopic thinking. These are terrible precedents. This is literally the definition of the "first they came for" quote but you're just super confident it'll only be the first step.
Perfect is the enemy of good
Sure, but then you can't complain when I call your guy a retard and his policies terrible. If you want to have low standards that's fine, but I get to point at them and call them terrible. Your standards suck.
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I am not very pro-immigration myself. I am mildly distressed I guess, but mainly because I feel kind of like I'm screaming into the void as a centrist.
This administration is retarded, and isn't even doing the thing they say they're doing, and it kind of feels like this (normally quite smart) community is content to clap like seals instead of going "wait why aren't they actually doing things that would solve immigration permanently, and instead going for maximum heat and chaos?"
I really think that many people feel this way and therefore really do not care what ICE does to illegals.
Polling shows trump getting steadily less popular on immigration all year. Down and to the right. So while you're right, that group is shrinking due to his shitty execution.
HermeneuticsOfVibes
10hr ago
I use the tools quite a bit, especially in the use case of architecting cloud infrastructure, where as you might imagine, every solution you are building has already been done by 100,000 other people before you.
In general there's something to be said for point three, but not how the speaker intended it. If an LLM is incredibly helpful and can eliminate 50+% of your work, most of your work is repetitive junk that can be automated. Just like traditional software in the 90's and 00's automated away a tremendous amount of human labor that amounted to manual data entry, LLMs are very good at automating tasks that are the next level above that.
What do I mean by the next level above manual data entry? Tasks that are performed by many, many people, in only slightly different ways, across many different organizations. Let's say you work in HR and have to compile a weekly email for exec leadership that serves as an analysis of discretionary expenditures, based on some grouping, where the data comes from some attached spreadsheet. This is an incredibly common task people are performing, with many extremely common sub patterns (i.e. huge spend by R&D this week on flights and accommodations, they are attending a conference and chose to file it as discretionary instead of getting training and travel pre-approved). Because there are only so many unique scenarios, LLM's are a good use case for automating this kind of work, even if it is a dynamic analysis task.
The reason engineers and scientists find less general utility from using LLMs is likely just because they aren't walking well trodden ground. Were I in one of these roles that benefit so highly, I personally wouldn't be bragging about how much of my workload is able to be automated.
hydroacetylene
10hr ago
‘Trump isn’t going after the problematic illegals’ is a reasoned criticism. The guys in a Home Depot parking lot are probably not people I want my kids hanging around with once they’re done with work(I mean, they’re roustabouts), but that doesn’t make them the worst people. The worst ones are outside of employment, making their money off of other illegals or crime.
Now farm and slaughterhouse workers are probably the least problematic ones, when native citizens have the choice between doing those jobs and jail they choose jail. Somebody has to pick the crops and slaughter the chickens and thats a very reasonable principled exception.
Totalitarianit
10hr ago
Go after our agricultural industry and significantly increase food prices? What political benefit does that have?
If you aren't targeting the employers of illegal immigrants, you aren't serious about immigration
Most in the Republican party don't actually care about getting rid of all illegal immigration. They care about progressives and democrats giving the entire planet a green light to migrate here.
Pause for a moment and try to disabuse yourself of the literalness of the argument you hold yourself to. Nobody who runs the country actually thinks they can get rid of all illegals and survive it politically, but if we can project an image that says "We will deport you if you come or stay here illegally." then the likelihood of people trying to come here illegally plummets. This is far more preferable than quickly creating or using a system that the left will then take and turn into an entry permission slip for millions of illegals, like they already have. If Dems and Republicans want to re-implement something like that, then ok, but it will fuck with the optics and people will flood the border, and the media will report on the humanitarian crisis, and Democrats will adopt policy to allow more people in than what was agreed to. Overall, you want to perfect or streamline something that is ripe for left wing overreach. We know this because we just got out of an admin that did it.
TeknOShEeP
10hr ago
Yes, but that is all far, far downstream of the media industrial complex's and the DNC's (but I repeat myself) decision to push the idea that immigration law doesnt matter and anyone who enforces it is a evil nazi. What options does ICE have? Attempt to arrest between 10-30 million illegals, give them multiple hearings, provide all legal care and shelter during said hearing period, while being fought tooth and claw by approximately half of the population? Lol, not a fucking chance.
ICE is doing the only thing it can do- demonstrate in a highly visible way that they will enforce the law, and the days of free-riding are over, might as well self-deport doe the thousand bucks and free plane ticket. If this offends the left, well, fuck it, they broke the system first.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
10hr ago
Well, "Bad Boys" is kinda hokey, but "Ride of the Valkyries" is serious and "Paint it Black" is in a minor key. So maybe you want no music at all, just ICE agents shouting and the sounds of the raids?
fmac
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10hr ago
The second part does not appear to be true. Or rather, it is true that "most" people agree with it, but there's a significant number opposing it both rhetorically (including here) and physically who do not, and that should not be ignored.
This is my thesis. People want action on immigration, but hate how they see ICE doing it. ICE is being run poorly and the administration is fucking this up.
This is pretty much unproven. There's lots of stories, but most of them describe pretty ordinary law enforcement stuff (which I often object to, but applying such complaints only to ICE is not valid) and often use overwrought words like "kidnapping".
They've done enough dumb/weird/unpleasant looking things that it's safe to say they're not operating at a super high level of discipline or care.
Breaking a dude's leg and holding him in a hospital for 37 days with no charges under a fake name so he's harder to find isn't "ordinary law enforcement". Shipping people to prisons in different countries isn't ordinary either. Even if those people are illegal, it leaves a bad taste in their mouths, and eventually at this level of sloppy chaos, they will do something stupid and fucked up to an American citizen who isn't illegal (if they haven't already).
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
10hr ago
I think a majority of leftists believe that their official mission is illegitimate, and borders in general are basically unethical
Does anyone on this site think this? I meant like this argument in this thread.
Yes, in this very thread:
Good. ICE officers have, in my mind, about as much legitimacy as federal officials enforcing the Fugitive Slave Act and it is every red-blooded Americans moral duty to resist them.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
10hr ago
I used to ask for more in general. I voted third-party in every presidential election from when I turned 18 through 2020 because I wanted more than what the two parties were offering.
Then I saw how Biden "governed." And how Mayorkas "defended" my homeland.
It was a tough lesson to learn, but not one I'm likely to forget.
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