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Quantumfreakonomics
1d ago
I'm the kind of sicko that wants to see stuff like this when I travel.
EverythingIsFine
Well, is eventually fine
1d ago
Obama-Trump transition of power. Obama’s (non)response to birtherism. I actually think the first impeachment was a relatively fair process (though I wish they had waited a little longer for more testimony). On the whole Obama’s response to tea party waves, you lie, etc wasn’t too apocalyptic and he did attempt some bipartisan working during the ACA stuff (failed but he tried). I think he also was criticized by fellow Dems for not escalating debt ceiling fights too?
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Not as far as I know- migrants get to Germany as fast as possible instead of dithering in the Balkans.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
But these people were originally from Bulgaria and born to parents who are originally from Bulgaria. I have no sympathy for gypsies but, you know, the ones from Bulgaria are from Bulgaria.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Probably, yeah, but teenagers from lower class backgrounds facing potentially serious charges aren't exactly reliable witnesses.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
I am not a libertarian and think it's perfectly reasonable for holding a weapon in your hand to be a serious crime.
DiscourseMagnus
1d ago
You'll occasionally see a particularly tonedeaf Muslim blame Rotherham on the girls, or a particularly fervent supporter of prostitution do the same re:Epstein.
phailyoor
1d ago
The open carrying of weapons has been the norm across the world for 99% of human history. It only became banned when modern high capacity states gained the capacity to suppress vigilantism.
DiscourseMagnus
1d ago
Sorry, misparsed phrase there, I meant the real incident itself.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
A hatchet? Like a pocketknife I understand, that seems normal and plausible. But a hatchet?
hydroacetylene
1d ago
American attitudes about teenagers having sex, especially female ones, are legitimately much harder than British.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Is this just the British isles equivalent of ghetto blacks?
4bpp
Now I am become a Helpful, Honest and Harmless Assistant, the destroyer of jobs
1d ago
If I am going to have a less than completely friendly interaction with 12 year old girls, I am going to be filming everything start to finish, out of simple common sense self-preservation. Moreover, if there are 12 year old rowdy girls loitering with axes in my neighbourhood, I will in fact be seeking an interaction to figure out what that is about (and potentially report them to the police, based on what that interaction reveals). To not do so seems irresponsible to me - what are they going to do with that axe? Break into someone's house? Threaten someone? Hurt themselves?
It seems to me that some people analysing this incident are operating off of a mental model of the UK as some sort of zombie apocalypse movie setting, where it is reasonable for children to carry scavenged weapons if they have to go outside in broad daylight to defend themselves from the hordes.
DirtyWaterHotDog
1d ago
Open carrying weapons is common in some American states, and nowhere else. By definition, this makes red states the exception. To each their own, but the base prior has to be that the 'woman wielding the unwieldy weapon was wrong'. The outrage was contrived.
Yeah, by default, weapons are illegal. If they believe otherwise, then the burden of proof is on the Americans. And the pudding ain't sweet.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
I suspect she was trying to impress some guy who does be a hardened criminal.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Literally not the same thing. She was probably holding a knife to impress some sixteen year old boy(I suspect she succeeded). There's no reason to believe she be a hardened criminal to do that(although almost certainly he is).
hydroacetylene
1d ago
I suspect that molesty subcontinentals who realize they've bitten off more than they can chew react by running away rather than filming it, though.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Yeah. The median Republican is not a fan of the gays; even most of the ones that are pro-gay rights are pro gay rights on libertarian grounds rather than 'not thinking it's wrong' grounds.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
1d ago
At no point in my life have I ever been a libertarian.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
I mean it's always possible, the FBI seems to try to recruit literally anyone with access to the far right.
jkf
1d ago
Everybody be all libertarian 'till the tweens start a'yellin' I guess -- fuck this gay earth.
(you too @hydroacetylene)
ED: comment applies to you too, not fuck you too, lol
jkf
1d ago
That's kind of what I mean -- isn't it a common pattern for people from shithole countries to anchor in second tier EU ones prior to heading somewhere nicer?
hydroacetylene
1d ago
The Malleus Maleficarum was written by a man who was kicked out of multiple monasteries because he just could not shut up about witches and demons; he was under a gag order but that was probably more about him being annoying than about his theological views. Most women accused of witchcraft were merely unfortunate and a few of them probably did worship Satan in the edgy loser way or try to cast spells in the overweight loser way. But the median accuser was a peasant mob targeting misfits or irritating people, not a cleric, and witch burning was more common in protestant countries which militates against it mostly being a measure targeting heretics(Catholic countries being much stricter in that regard).
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
1d ago
I register a strong prediction that anyone referred to as 'Bulgarian' is actually 'Bulgarian', including if they stand accused of serious crimes.
As I mentioned in another comment, gypsies alone probably constitute up to 10-11% of Bulgaria’s population, and then an additional 8-9% are Turks, so you’re looking at up to a fifth of its population that’s visibly non-Bulgarian. Yes, Bulgaria is poor and its native Slavic population is far from impressive in terms of development, but it’s still the case that a Bulgarian committing crimes abroad has a strong probability of being non-ethnically-Bulgarian.
I knew something was up with this when the alleged assailant was the one who recorded the video. Putting aside why you would record your attempts to perv on a little girl, why would you post that online? The only other person who could have posted it would be the police, and there's no indication that the video was released by police. Why is a twelve-year-old girl hanging out in a place where she feels unsafe enough that she needs to carry weapons? Why do they keep slowly backing away instead of running? I know that when I was a kid if I had ever though someone was about to abduct me I'd get out of there as soon as possible. It's not like it wasn't a wide open public place with plenty of escape routes. And although it's not unheard of, it's certainly rare for attacks of the type that have been implied to be carried out by a man and a woman working together. I didn't comment earlier because I didn't want to speculate without more information, but the whole thing seemed fishy to me from the outset, because it conformed to a narrative certain people have. It's almost as if some of them want it to be true, and are hoping that it will turn out that these were nonwhite people there trying to rape children because it will validate the ideas they have about immigrants from certain parts of the world.
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