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If they're going to roll out the tanks for every instance of woke on anti-woke violence, I'm here for it.... but surely you see how doing so for that specific group in particular, and much of anyone else, has somewhat unfortunate optics?
quiet_NaN
2d ago
I might be typically-minding, but I think that most big tech companies are seen at least slightly negative by rats in general.
Apple and Google are obviously rent-seeking with their digital walled gardens. Apart from that, Google is an ads company, while Apple is making hardware for a slightly cultish consumer base. I prefer Android over iOS because the former is mostly open, but recognize that OS X is less of a walled garden than most Android devices are. Microsoft did a great job of becoming mostly irrelevant for me personally, which is much better than I expected. So far, they have failed to completely ruin github.
Reddit is a cautionary tale about what happens when you let a single company control a bit platform. Facebook was always mostly terrible.
Musk deserves a paragraph of his own. For someone who made his money with fucking PayPal, he really did some good for a time. Both Tesla and SpaceX were exactly the kind of companies society should want. Hell, he was Scott Alexander's go-to example of "high positive impact human" a decade ago. Of course, since he bought twitter, he has had a ton of negative impact on the world as well. Since xAI, I wish that whoever is writing Musk's role would try to write a realistic villain with actual coherent human motivations instead of just a Sieg-Heiling comic book caricature.
Speaking of LLMs, there is a sentiment among rats that many AI companies are actively working on extincting humans. Personally I hope that we will get wiped out by 'Open'AI with its callous disregard for safety rather than by Musk trying to build Grok from his own ego, the former seems slightly more dignified. Anthropic is probably one of the better ones as far as alignment vs capabilities is concerned.
Uber and Amazon are providing a useful service for customers, but it is apparent that their prices are caused by having people work in terrible conditions.
Most companies which I actually consider net-positive are not tech giants. Substack is filling a useful niche. Discord is still slightly useful despite working hard on enshittification.
I agree that monopolies are bad. If a company wants to grow from 0% market share to 5%, its incentives are likely aligned with broader society. If it wants to grow from 30% to 90%, the opposite is the case.
ToaKraka
Dislikes you
2d ago
SSCReader
2d ago
Letting people die for "health equity" is so high brow it's left the head entirely.
Not at all. If you have a certain amount of resources you have to decide who is going to get them and who is going to get them first. That kind of thinking is centuries old (if not older!) The presentation might be new but it's exactly the same sort of decision you have to make when deciding to build a hospital in London or Bradford. Do you put it in a poor area or a rich one?
Choosing it to place it where health outcomes are worst is taking into account health equity. Again the term may be new but the reality that you have to allocate scarce resources and who should get them is old. Probably as old as deciding if you should give food to the old toothless elder who may die any day or to the hunters in your tribe.
SSCReader
2d ago
So the term is created by academia, but it's a word for an already existing concept. Cisheteronormativity (refers to the pervasive societal assumption that everyone is cisgender and heterosexual, and that these are the only acceptable or natural ways to be.)
So if you asked an average person in 1840 and asked them "Hey, are women ,women and men men? Is being homosexual wrong?" He will likely give you an answer that is compatible with the concept of Cisheteronormativity. He understands the idea behind the term even if the term would be gibberish to him. Because it's the water he swims in, he probably doesn't think about it, but he is passively aware of the idea if you were to draw it to his attention and describe it to him.
Academia names the thing, but the thing existed prior to academia and would exist without academia to name it.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2d ago
Can one hope that this whole thing introduces a new generation to the magical world of BitTorrent?
Corvos
2d ago
I would guess they thought that weed would make them more relaxed and therefore more capable. Like the Ballmer Peak but with a different drug. I have no experience so can't say if it's plausible.
RoyGBivensAction
Zensunni Scientologist
2d ago
There are people, including lawyers and lawyers-to-be, who go through their entire days stoned. I have met them. They do things like take vape hits from THC pens the entire time they are awake. Someone getting high during the bar exam surprises me not at all.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
2d ago
While we're on the subject of bar exams, I had an idea when I took it called the Mount Everest of Lays. There may be more difficult situations to get laid in, but I haven't though of one that has the same combination of a necessarily limited time frame, situational inappropriateness (without being too inappropriate), and theoretical availability of women. The idea is getting laid on the evening between the two days of the bar exam with someone you met at the bar exam.
Entirely different profession, but I almost managed that. I had just given the first of the two exams needed to get licensed as a doctor in the UK. Funnily enough, the same buddy I was supposed to come visit in London was with me, and once it was done, we were both gassed, deeply anxious about the results, and in dire need of a stiff drink.
We set off for a nearby pub, and were just about done discussing and drowning our sorrows when a pair of pretty ladies came up to our table.
They said they'd recognized us from the exam center, and evinced an interest in going out dancing. I can't dance to save my life, but I was several drinks in and willing to give it a go, especially when a pretty woman was asking.
That was a night to remember. I probably danced six hours straight, till maybe 4 am. For once, I wasn't the worst dancer on the floor, as my friend thought standing on the spot and autistically stimming up and down counted. He had a six-pack, so I'm sure it wasn't a deal breaker.
I would have gotten laid, if I hadn't been honest and told them that I was taken while we were riding an elevator up to the clubs. I resigned myself to being a good wingman, but even on the dance club, I'm sure that if I had fewer scruples it would have worked out.
Once even the girls, who absolutely could dance, were done (or the club kicked us out, I don't remember), we caught a cab. Ah, good times. Even if I didn't get laid, the mere optionality had plenty of value in my eyes.
Corvos
2d ago
The original flights had to work, right? They were America's way of showing superiority to the Russians and to Communism. Now that it's just another tour of service, albeit an unusual one, I'm not surprised standards have been relaxed.
VoxelVexillologist
Multidimensional Radical Centrist
2d ago
For all the hype of the selection process for the first astronaut class --- The Right Stuff is a fantastic movie --- I don't think the current process is anywhere near as physically rigorous. They're probably still fit relative to the populace, but it's no longer quite the standard of perfection they started with. Deke Slayton of the Mercury 7 was grounded at the time for a minor heart issue, but got to fly later, and John Glenn was pretty old (77) when he flew again on the Space Shuttle in 1998.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2d ago
Not at all. I'm not Blue Tribe. I just live with them and educate their kids. Academic justifications follow belief systems not the other way round.
Cool, thanks for sharing your experience, but I have my own, and I see no reason to accept yours over mine.
Having said that hydroacetylene also said the same thing above and he is a Red Tribe conservative (as far as I recollect), so someone in a very different milieu than I am is seeing the same things.
Saying "I'm deeply familiar with the Blue Tribe, and that's not what I've seen" makes sense as an argument, but I don't see how "this guy is Red Tribe, and he agrees with me" makes any sense in the context. I think he's also wrong, and responded to him. The bottom-up vs. top-down view of society is a disagreement that's (literally) orthogonal to left vs. right.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2d ago
Well no, because an idea can't take over anything.
Do you really, honestly, can't possibly imagine what this could have been a shorthand for? I'm happy to explain if so, but if this is just being pedantic, and I have to phrase my post like I'm talking to a lawyer looking for any loophole to get out of a contract, that's not going to be fun for me.
Is just a fancied up academic way of justifying already existing belief sets, the ideas and beliefs go way back beyond the 1920s.
Sure, and it was distinctly unpopular in America until recently. You don't have to go back very far, just watch some TV shows from the 80's and 90's, read some blogs from the 00's, and it will become clear that the Blue consensus at the time went against Critical Theory.
You're working from a perspective where people have their minds changed by theories,
No, I'm not, though my theory differs from yours. I'm arguing from a perspective where people have their minds changed by status and authority.
So no Critical theory did not take over the Blue Tribe
It absolutely did. It was an idea so unpopular that it was deemed a strawman whenever a concerned Blue Triber tried to raise concerns over it. A lot of it was happening on this very forum.
Lizzardspawn
2d ago
Check how many of Hollywood's elite kids are trans (fad of the day) and answer yourself
IGI-111
God was a dream of good government.
2d ago
People who don't believe in bioleninism in this case. Presumably.
Lizzardspawn
2d ago
Upper claaaes becoming a monoculture makes the revolution so much easier.
JarJarJedi
2d ago
Someone fired up a joint in the bathroom
So, somebody went to a bar exam, the most important exam to become a lawyer, and thought "what I really need right now is to get really stoned! Like, completely baked out of my mind, this would do wonders for me!" And this person may soon become a lawyer and one day represent somebody in court.
DuplexFields
Ask me how the FairTax proposal works. All four Political Compass quadrants should love it.
2d ago
Who would have anything to gain by doing that?
Employers could hire people in the bottom fifth percentile for requiring sick days… and wanting vacations.
Political parties could put forward candidates with high empathy and cooperation scores, as determined by an AI, but with high loyalty to ensure they’d take care of their voters and not have a ton of affairs.
Every sport would become moneyball, even the Olympics.
Forget normal, the big money would go to edge cases. It would be meritocracy by caste.
Corvos
2d ago
The idea is that naming something does not equal creating it. The thing was already there, you just named it.
However, that's not always the case, I think. Articulating an idea can bring it into being (this is why 'meme theory' treats ideas as organisms) and the way you articulate it significantly affects how it goes on to be perceived and thought about.
FtttG
2d ago
I genuinely wonder if there's anyone so deep into wokeness and with enough disposable income that they would deliberately select for a gay son and/or thot daughter just to own the cons.
RoyGBivensAction
Zensunni Scientologist
2d ago
IMHO you should invest more energy of your process into the mindset.
Probably a good idea and something I should work on.
Why are you dieting in the first place?
To see if it's still relatively easy for me to lose weight. To see where I lose that weight from. To see if it positively effects some health numbers. To make distance running easier.
It seems you are training towards a marathon whilst also lifting?
Yes. For much of my 20s, I was strictly endurance training with no lifting, and I'm not going back to that.
better sleep quality (unless you are deep into a cut and go to bed hungry)
I'm not deep into a cut and going to bed hungry, but sleep quality has gotten worse.
performance in calisthenics - pullups just feel amazing for me in a diet
Bodyweight/calisthenics exercises have certainly gotten easier.
enjoyment of food
Unchanged.
looks when naked (at least after this first 'flatness' hump)
Not to be too vain, but I looked pretty awesome at 215. I'm far more defined now, but feel too skinny (although I recognize I'm not, and I'm still too heavy for comfortably completing a marathon or longer race).
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
2d ago
Schools and governments have already made it clear that responding to kind of thing oneself is verboten and will get the defender in trouble, so there's nothing left but either sucking it up or bringing in the authorities.
professorgerm
You shall love your crooked neighbor, with your crooked heart
2d ago
Yeah, I phrased it poorly. I definitely don't think the ad agency was explicitly saying that. I do think they were consciously courting the outrage machine as a turbo-booster on the ad. Maybe I'm overestimating the Onlineness of marketers but I'd expect them to be second only to journalists in paying attention to the outrage machine. If they didn't play it like a fiddle deliberately, that's some great luck or great astroturfing.
It's an easy pun that's been done before, as Iprayiam shared downthread JC Penney doing it last fall, no reaction. Of course, that ad had a group, reasonably attractive and diverse but no major standouts. Sweeny stands alone.
her race is only relevant to the extent that you think white girls are/aren't hot.
We live in a weird culture that made race extremely relevant again after a relative low period; positive statements about certain races are treated as vastly more suspicious than positive statements about other races, and vice versa.
If it had been Halle Bailey in the jeans, the backlash would be limited to one dark corner of twitter and would never reach Good Morning America.
But the term isn't just about "allocating scarce resources and who should get them", it's "allocating them in such a way, that you are predictably causing more deaths than an alternative, traditional allocation".
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