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sliders1234
1yr ago
No punishment if you get the vibes right. As CJ noted there’s a ton of other stuff going on that looks like a conspiracy to keep Trump out of the White House. Once the average guy sees a lot of things that let’s call it “system fraud” they will just go with it. If the left boosted their credibility then they could perhaps undermine the grifters.
The issue is the grifter feel directional correct even if their specific stuff is false.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Is the BMW sticker price fair? Maintenance still has to be at Euro-import level I would assume. Maybe a little cheaper than modern cars. Even a fully paid off bmw I would assume is running 3-6k minimum in yearly costs. While the big American truck probably has cheaper parts.
I have no problem on spending a lot of money on doing things versus clothing.
Funny someone else said they avoid companies that abuse their workers. I got no qualms and think I’m doing a good thing buying from them. In that case your most likely giving someone a wage versus subsistence farming or worse.
sliders1234
1yr ago
If you were essentially at the ballot box then the same principles would apply and that would be fraud.
If you read the ballot together and discussed the issues and then half an hour later filled out the ballots in private then I would say it’s fine.
My guess is most people who helped didn’t clearly establish discussing and the process of voting.
sliders1234
1yr ago
The target audience for that group is downstream of TheMotte. I wouldn’t be surprised no one here has an opinion on them.
It’s like comparing a WW2 propaganda film to boost morale to kill some Japs and Germans versus the arguments the upper class has on an election. The goal of making those films is too boost the lower class to do what you need them to do.
sliders1234
1yr ago
I definitely care about that. Perhaps because I think it’s sways elections.
Let’s say you work at Disney. You bs a lot of corporate BS. Everyone is voting at work and showing each other their ballots. Everyone expect you to do the same. Do you think a guy who votes Trump is getting promoted? That is more extreme but this did happen within families. We already knew that Trump outperforms his polling so there were a lot of quiet Trump voters.
For a lot of voting rules a good question is whether each side fights over them so much if they didn’t think they mattered. If their isn’t fraud why wont Dems get rid of extensive mail-in voting unless they think it’s a huge benefit to them.
sliders1234
1yr ago
It would seem to be fraudulent and perhaps illegal to tell them who to vote for/pressure them who to vote for while they are preparing/in the act of voting. That is an identical act as campaigning at the election site but sort of worse because many times it also removed their ability to vote independently with a secret ballot. With the sex skews in voting now that can add up.
The strongest claim of election fraud is the violation of the secret ballot and people interfering with peoples ability to vote their conscience. This survey supports it was widespread.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Sorry meant they didn’t have proof.
sliders1234
1yr ago
I’ll agree I have a concern with the survey. But since you used crap. I’d say the same about your explanations.
You very well know 17% of voters do not have Washington St residence and live in Europe. Even during COVID that isn’t true. My critique would be the number is obviously too high to be believable and indicates trolling. Even peak work from anywhere COVID wasn’t going to close to that.
Yes. Disabilities exists. But 15-20% of voters do not have those disabilities.
I’m not entirely sure what to think of this polls issues. Some of the data seems implausible. But the explanations you are using is what I would call misinformation by giving a true exception. But those reasons don’t seem to be numerically close to same values.
I do think there was a lot of fraud with regards to people sharing answers and helping with a ballot. It’s illegal to campaign at the poll booth in person so I assume that is also illegal when voting at home. And if it’s not illegal I would still call that fraud.
It’s really just a motte-and-bailey.
These guys seem to exaggerate fudge provable fraud.
This survey caught my eye. It’s probably not perfect but it showed 20% of mail-in-voters admitted to some kind of voting fraud.
It’s by no means a perfect survey. But I think real world awareness is going to tell you the secret ballot was violated and people voted in groups. That’s fraud.
My guess is this kind of fraud likely did tip the election but would be nearly impossible to detect for a court.
I’ve also been looking into Douglas Murray’s Real Education and he makes good points that half the population is below average and a large percentage can only do rudimentary reading comprehension and arithmetic. Truthfully in politics if you want to win you still need a lot of votes from these people. Whatever you want to call it grifting, causing outrage to get people mad enough to vote, etc you need to do it. The left will do it too. As they do with race relations. Flood the zone with accusations and get your people voting. Both sides have dumb people.
Also I’d note there does seem to be some evidence the illegal who shot up the Houston Church had voted but I haven’t dug in enough to verify.
Illegals also count for population which changes government funding, house seats, and electoral college votes. Which feels like another form of voting fraud to me.
sliders1234
1yr ago
This is only for the online too much people and needing people to either be with us or against us with them.
On net hottie marrying beefy football guy is trad and good.
The only thing really here is Kelce took a knee for BLM. But he’s also a football player so he fell for the propaganda in my opinion and didn’t dig deep enough to realize the stats on police killings were nothing like reality.
sliders1234
1yr ago
If you are more exposed to something you are more likely to develop those thoughts, behaviors, vices etc.
If I went to Ibiza and people were doing heroin that doesn’t mean I need to approve of Heroin being sold at 7-eleven. Let alone I want Heroin sold at the Lunch counter in elementary school.
sliders1234
1yr ago
It’s not just violent repression happening in those gulf states.
Saudi Arabia’s legitimacy rested on two key things:
- A deal with the clerics to keep the country religious
- Good governance. The regime takes a lot of money for their lifestyle but everything I’ve heard they have the best roads in the Middle East and things like that.
sliders1234
1yr ago
I don’t have much problem with her speech. America has long had people with other loyalties. I myself would likely need to take directions from the Pope before the POTUS.
I do think the Nationalist and ethnonationalist have a legitimate beef with her.
According to her Somlia is for the Somalians and according the ADL Israel is for the Jews. But that doesn’t stop them from ripping on any domestic nationalist sympathies in the US. Concerns about limiting immigration etc should be valid arguments to these people. And voting her out of office and deporting her brother seem very valid.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Who knows. I’ve always been a fan of a Scott Summer quote that the top 10% read the NYT and the top 1% spend their time on some obscure blog/message board. The DEI and critical theory types were all obscure before they took over everything.
The rationalist were obscure before they took over AI and Bitcoin. New ideas come from people who skim the NYT but develop their mental models elsewhere. Mass adoption of ideas won’t flow thru here but the laboratories upstream of say a Hannania weren’t developed on big twitter followings.
I would say in past generations ideas like neoliberalism were developed in academia by a Friedman toiling in anonymity but my guess is that’s not where the big cultural ideas will come from in the future.
I’ve long wandered if anyone I know in real life posts here and there’s a few who seem to fit the mold.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Agreed it gets a little less cartoonish after the initially are you bad at science question and just becomes you need to cheat to win.
sliders1234
1yr ago
This test feels like it is cartoonish. To the point where it was either the KKK who were assigned to boost AA and decided let’s make black people say they suck at science and then go collect our bonus for boosting AA or some senior dude just got pissed he had guys not on merit and created a test so dumb it wins a lawsuit easily. Basically got pissed at the politicians.
There has to be less obvious ways to cheat on an exam than this.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Honestly the most interesting thing to me is How does Elon Musks have some much time to be involved in every single twitter controversy. The amount of twitter stuff he’s involved in is like a typical unemployed sleeping in moms basement always online level not a guy whose like CEO of 3 companies. Makes me curious if he’s outsourced all the CEO stuff yet and just tweets or if there is some dude with a job title that is Elon Musks professional tweeter.
And Tracy should be getting a NYT article in about 72 hours including all of his personal information.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Good points. I did pre-qualify that I may need to update my priors.
I think it’s come from operation in a mistake theory mindset versus a conflict theory mindset. Mistake theory being a mentally ill lady perhaps with tds would magnify something that did happen in her head as she grew to hate Trump the President. Conflict theory being along the lines of people might actually just completely make things up ala Smollette for gain.
The part that makes this less believable is it occurring during the middle of the day in a public space where a simple scream would have place Donald Trump in cuffs and away for a few years. If the accusation was at 3 am after a night at the club it would seem more plausible.
Reid Hoffman point I give no credence to. Acting legally by funding opposition candidates in a Democracy is a lot different than participating in a fraudulent accusation. The only slight negative for Hoffman is I doubt he would ever vote for Haley so funding her I would consider as acting in bad faith.
In this case I think he’s in the right of not taking legal advice. The issue in my view is the law is wrong. This should have been statute of limitations. It’s far from certain he did this and he should have the right to defend himself in public.
His ignorance of legal advice on this manner is something I do admire about him. It’s the whole giving the FU to the system thing and believe every women. Many other men without his power have been destroyed by false accusations.
People aren’t voting for Trump because he’s a guy that’s going to capitulate to a jury and a judge. His whole game is destroying the deep state which means he’s going to stand up to all these things. Deescalating these matters would mean Ron Desantis is our next POTUS.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Maybe I need to update my priors in light of many recent events but I have a hard time believing someone would completely make up an encounter versus exaggerate. I’ve read enough PUA material and know enough high body count guys that I feel like I know how they think.
A lot of girls do fail to give consent when perfectly willing and I think a lot of playboys have internalized that and act with some aggression. My guess is Trump did pursue her for a fling and was likely aggressive and probably handsy.
My probabilities
90% an encounter occurred between her and Trump
30% he crossed a line. Which I would say is digital penetration
<10% he raped her in the common usage sense. And I’m like closer to <1% especially since it’s in a semi-public space
I’m under no illusion Trump is some kind of Saint. The jury award is silly and is a prime example of why we have statute of limitations. I wouldn’t be shocked if Trump did it and has zero recollection of it.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Doesn’t your insurrection views do the same thing?
And yes I wander how much of my view is usefulness versus honest reasoning.
sliders1234
1yr ago
Everyone saying the same thing. I just find it hard to believe the amount of podcast are being filled by basically people doing chores.
It’s actually a fair amount of work to find good content.
I think the function that keeps me away from podcast is it’s more difficult to see the whole piece and realize if it’s worth the investment.
The one time I could see myself being a podcast guy was when I worked for a cousins as a pool contractor assistance and we drove around doing maintainance. Lots of time in a car. I assume guys like him are bread and butter Joe Rogan types.
I have about 4 hours of videos I want to watch but they’ve been sitting in a a tab for a few weeks.
My view is the podcast market is vastly oversupplied but it seems like a lot of people do watch them I just don’t know those people.
sliders1234
1yr ago
- It serves my politics
- I hope my reasoning isn’t motivated reasoning and I’m making distinctions for good reasons
sliders1234
1yr ago
I don’t think malicious intent is required for it to be an invasion.
I mean COVID doesn’t want to kill people. It just wants to spread and replicate but that doesn’t mean it’s not a deadly disease. The underlying virus lacks malicious intent.
This case is so bad it’s the exact thing I talked about with ymeskhout about that what he was complaining about the right grifters can get away with anything because the vibes are institutional corruption. And this is worse it’s not some dude making a movie but a court of law in one of the richest states in the union.
No one else has ever been prosecuted for this. It’s like giving a guy a $400 million bill because he jaywalked.
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