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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 23, 2024

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Twitter had a very interesting few days before Christmas, we even saw the return of the huwhite man Jared Taylor to Twitter, which is a fairly surprising thing. I try to not post about India but this is kinda important and has to do with the US so here we go.

In the h1b debate, the point about country caps for skilled migration in the US recently picked up a lot of steam. Trump appointed Sriram as Senior policy advisor for artificial intelligence and his tweets about the removal of h1b caps caused a lot of chaos. David Sacks and the entirety of the tech platoon was defending Sriram, the removal of country caps and ultimately sacks tweeted that Sriram will not control the vias issues since his department is AI.. Many also pointed out Srirams tweet where he openly advocates for active IQ Shredding. Spandrell who coined the term IQ shredders as an example makes a case against such migration as in the end both nations lose bio capital, sriram for instance believes America to be an idea over a people and is fine with all smart Indians leaving en masse which will drop the average iq permanently here. They won't have kids in the US either and the US will have to keep incentivising more people to join to keep up the rate of tech innovation.

India has the highest wait times for h1b visas due to having had IT sweatshops and plenty of fraudsters hustle the legal immigration route. You see most H1Bs coming from three states of 29 here and IT sweatshops which make the backbone of the Indian IT sector indulging in absolute fraud to the point of regular fines spanning more than a decade, fun fact, the founder of Infosys is Former English Prime Minister Rishi Sunaks Father in law. It is a difficult thing, India itself has had anti-migration sentiments within the country as the largest IT hub Bangalore has people routinely asking for fewer migrants as they are not Kannadigas, the local ethnic group.

The political class, however, was unanimously criticising it. Blake Masters, another Theil Capital person turned politician, even asked for the total removal of H1Bs and only keeping O1 visas. All factions of the right did this, including Andrew Torba, Zionists like Laura Loomer, dissidents like BAP, Captive Dreamer and ofc Groypers.

Full disclosure, I am an Indian guy who is in tech, I am still in my home country and cannot comment on this topic without being called a self-hating Indian. India has fat tails and a lot of Indians are not politically scheming migrants, at least not the competent ones. I can't lie about this on an anonymous forum here since I don't like lying but inevitably I also cannot say this publicly as I don't want decent people to get cornered. I am an Indian dude who very likely may migrate after all. It is far easier to simply generalise groups, Tutsis or Yorubas are simply seen as Africans. The Amerikaner is correct but if you are an upper-caste male here, you will never sniff political power, anyone who is smart will be made to live as a nerd and might as well be a nerd doing cooler stuff in a better society than live here and be treated like garbage.

Trump is unlikely to curb the h1b but the most likely outcome will still be more Telugus and other south Indian states having a small number of sweatshops gaming the migration in the US even harder like Gujarati and Punjabis in Canada and rest of the anglosphere.

Update - the situation has worsened with Laura Loomer and other conservatives losing thier verification status and Elon calling them all subtards.

Elon seems to be pushing this idea that Americans are retarded and need mass legal migration by Indians as happened in Canada and UK which is a stupid idea. It didn't even work economically.

It is interesting to see some themes reappearing:

Identity politics for the migrants and bashing the natives and their racial qualities. While Elon has already started changing policies.

I have also seen some downplayment of discrimination towards white Americans.

Multicultural nation destroying liberalism and the self serving agenda of foreign nationalists who align with it against the native group is at the center of the problems with the politically correct left. It is directly related to oppressing dissenters, and racist discrimination at the expense of natives, and of course the very act of destroying nations, is it self a massive moral problem to put it lightly. Allying with foreign nationalists who are racist is another facet of this and we saw the explosion of anti-white comentary from Indians. The multicultural liberal always sides with such people and tolerates, ignores, downplays, excuse if not persecute those who notice and opposite.

I expect to observe liberals who claim to be antiwoke to continue to share some of the worst qualities of the woke and to implement the kind of authoritarian double standard policies they claimed to oppose. The story of big business types who are looking for cheap labor aligning with this ideology and its anarchotyranical elements isn't a new thing neither. This also raises the issue of parasitism of such big business types since the migration comes with social, political and economic costs that are passed to the rest of society.

You can't have a nice "non woke" multicultural liberalism. Which is in fact the main liberalism that is on offer today.

Musk has shown what side he is on.

You mean the man who decided to make ICE cars obsolete, the man whose stated goal is taking the humanity to Mars is a progressive? What a surprising turn of events!

In all seriousness, it's sad that wokism has somehow become synonymous with progressivism. If Xavier Musk had invented a machine that unleased a swarm of nanobots rewriting him into a biological female, Elon would've been fucking elated to meet Vivian Musk.

He kinda reminds me of an ex-Soviet Jewish engineer, the one who arrives in New York or Jerusalem in 1988 and immediately starts suggesting ways of improving the situation by eliminating Negroes/Arabs. "What do you mean you can't just deport them to Alabama? According to my calculations, if you mobilize the National Guard of the states of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut you can completely encircle Harlem, eliminate any armed resistance and transport them in just X goods vans, which is just Y trains. I am sure the CSX has better signaling than the Soviet railways and can handle this short-term burst of traffic."

le based Elon turned out not to be very based™️ after all,

We clearly have very different definitions of Based. Displaying traits of Elite Human capital is based in my book, and Elon not wavering despite the wailing and gnashing of millions of Low Human Capital to me demonstrates a level of resolve few have.

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Weaponizing what is actually a very useful soft power tool against your new allies after one online disagreement is right up there with other "Elite Human Capital" moves like offering a solution to save some trapped kids, then calling someone closer to the situation a pedophile because he disagreed.

Can't believe Hanania has successfully sold "being an asshole on Twitter" as a sign of EHC.

Elon is a thin-skinned narcissist. Which is fine. But his new political project relies on maintaining an alliance with an even bigger one. Going around de-verifying Trump acolytes over some bullshit is not probably not a good play.

"Elite Human Capital" moves like offering a solution to save some trapped kids, then calling someone closer to the situation a pedophile because he disagreed.

What I've always found interesting about the insult is that I thought way more people knew what goes on in Thailand, but then a ton of people were bewildered about Musk "randomly" calling "some guy" a pedophile.

The man in question is a white expat living in Thailand, and white men don't move to Thailand for the diving.

exactly how high a percentage of child prostitution do you think is necessary to be justified in calling someone a pedo for moving to that country, with no other evidence?

Less percentage, though as the article says it's believed a minimum of 40%. Thailand is the sex tourism capital of the world, it's also the child prostitution capital of the world. Legal prostitution where almost half are children, very bad signaling from a white man living there not for obvious foreign professional reasons — such as being: a director or otherwise highly-compensated role in a multinational corporation; an entrepreneur on a temporary visit pursuing a deal; a journalist on assignment; a diplomat or attaché — and making it fair to suspect ill motive. It gets worse, the man, Vernon Unsworth, lives or lived in Chiang Rai, that's a city in Thailand's rural and mountainous north. So it's not just that he moved to the country that's the world capital of child prostitution, he moved to the region in that country where it's most prolific.

I wouldn't accuse him of being a pedophile on this alone but I would tell him honestly, the choices he has made have drastically increased the probability and consequently the reasonability of suspecting him of pedophilia. Enough he has forfeited fair indignation when someone calls him a pedo.

I would sooner suspect a man who has been to the sex tourism capital of the world than the one who chose to live there. The former man's motivation is scrutable, the latter's more complicated. I have not heard of many people who love brothels so much they'd live next door for the convenience.

That's why I find Musk's signaling worse, he went on the tangent of a largely baseless accusation in a personal spat.

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I thought the child prostitution had moved to... Cambodia now? I'm not wise to the ways of the early access passport bros, but I do remember some BBC article about how the thai govt crackdown had pushed it to poorer countries.

"ping pong ball"

I think his actions are incredibly based but utterly lacking in 5D chess by not holding it together even until Trump is inaugurated.

Going to go wash my fingers after typing that.

Many South Asians are, of course, elite human capital, but I have yet to be persuaded that the average Infosys H-1B is. And again, I say that as someone who has no strong opinion on H1B numbers while so much unskilled immigration is a bigger priority, even though I think the current number of the former is likely too high and they should be auctioned rather than the subject of a lottery.

Absolutely agree on the auction thing, although I personally think the number of H1-Bs is too low. The lottery system is the product of yet another brain worm commonly found in Homo sapiens occidentalis where they are not content to merely pick all of the best because it would be oh so unfair if all the underdogs lose out just because there are better specimens them in the pool...

Would be interesting at the very least to see what the H1-B market clearing price is at different levels of visa availability. We could even have derivatives like H1-B futures which allow firms to hedge away the risk of prices spiking in future years and guarantee a certain steady level of supply years down the line if they know roughly how many people they'll be needing! And of course whereever there's a derivatives market there will be market makers and speculators! I can already sort of think of a simple trading strategy for pricing them...

I can’t speak for H1B specifically but the proper use of lotteries, like sumptuary laws, is preventing the expenditure of much blood and gold for objectively tiny gains. Putting your child through hours of cram school every week to increase their grades by 1%, say.

I think the auction would be the best system, and would probably also balance out migrant demographics because professionals in Europe would be more willing to apply if there was some certainty; right now the process is dominated by Indians not because nobody else wants to move to the US but because of the specific ‘spray and pray’ strategy that these big tech consulting / outsourcing firms use where they have all 100,000 engineers a year apply and 5,000 or whatever get it.

Lack of certainty is yet another thing which I find absolutely BS about many things in the US. For instance whether or not particular medical treatments are covered on insurance. I know people who were told their procedure wasn't covered but after multiple hours of calling their insurers and angry back and forth finally got told it was. This type of dithering is bad, either you the insurer cover something or you don't; what exactly you cover should be made available in an easy to access list and it should not be possible to argue with you about what the policy you are selling includes to get other treatments OK'd. That just benefits the time rich at the expense of the time poor, who are by and large people who's time is valuable and so those who likely actually contribute to society.

Pick a damn list of treatments, make it public and stick to it. If that list means people stop using you because your product is overpriced for what it offers well then it's your own fault which you can fix by making another product which covers more things at a similar price.

Of course this lack of certainty also extends to other places like College admissions etc.: I was decently (>50%) sure I would be given an offer by the Oxbridge college I applied to at the moment of application based on my assessment of my abilities, you can't say anything like that for any Ivy tier US university unless you're like a legacy athlete or something.

There’s an entire grifter set that I wish we could all just ban collectively (not really, but I wish people would stop falling for them). People like Laura Loomer, Tim Pool, Sam Seder, Kyle Kulinski, Saagar Enjeti, Milo Yionoppolus, and I’m sure many others seem to exist just to post and share comically misinformed takes about current events and rile people up.

What's next? Matthew Yglesias meeting with Trump to explain the benefits of his immigration program?

One billion Americans in a hundred years would be great. We could even call it Project 2125 or something...

it’s been a great few days for memes

Amazing. My (already high) opinion of musk has gone up two notches. These people are just as bad as the woke in trying to prevent humanity from achieving true Greatness. The woke were completely right that these people didn't dislike DEI, they only disliked who it was used to benefit, and btw, poor Blacks and Hispanics are a lot more sympathetic than by all accounts overpaid American white tech workers. Even the longshore men union is more sympathetic when it comes to asking for gibs than American tech workers (yes the US is richer than other developed countries but the wage premium American tech workers command is massive compared to just as well trained tech workers in the UK for example). Borders are meant to provide national security, they aren't meant to be a DEI scheme for those who're already gonna live 99th percentile lives when averaged out over all of humanity.

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Borders are meant to provide national security, they aren't meant to be a DEI scheme for those who're already gonna live 99th percentile lives when averaged out over all of humanity.

Borders are absolutely intended to serve the interests of the people represented by the government, and to elevate the interest of those people above foreigners. The gambit of accusing the anti-H1B crowd of "DEI" is rhetorically desperate since it's clearly anti-diversifying the workplace and anti-equitable and anti-inclusive. Yes, you were born abroad so we are going to discriminate against you. If our government does not do that it is illegitimate. And European countries are the only ones in the world that are expected to take the tact you imply here. Is Israel meant to be something other than a "DEI" schema for the Jews?

White American tech workers are not overpaid, it is not their fault that countries like India are totally incapable of generating a civilization that could reciprocate employment opportunity. Instead, you get entitled Indians demanding access to European civilization and pretending it's all about "meritocracy" when their homelands have absolutely nothing to offer Europeans.