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naraburns  nihil supernum  2mo ago (text post)   6046 thread views

Quality Contributions Report for January 2025

This is the Quality Contributions Roundup. It showcases interesting and well-written comments and posts from the period covered. If you want to get an idea of what this community is about or how we want you to participate, look no further (except the rules maybe--those might be important too).

As a reminder, you can nominate Quality Contributions by hitting the report button and selecting the "Actually A Quality Contribution!" option. Additionally, links to all of the roundups can be found in the wiki of /r/theThread which can be found here. For a list of other great community content, see here.

These are mostly chronologically ordered, but I have in some cases tried to cluster comments by topic so if there is something you are looking for (or trying to avoid), this might be helpful.

Quality Contributions to the Main Motte

@George_E_Hale:

@problem_redditor:

@thejdizzler:

@barristan_selmy:

@coffee_enjoyer:

@recovering_rationaleist:

Contributions for the week of December 30, 2024

@Dean:

@naraburns:

@ControlsFreak:

@cjet79:

@Throwaway05:

Contributions for the week of January 6, 2025

@self_made_human:

@jeroboam:

@FiveHourMarathon:

@ArjinFerman:

@jake:

@netstack:

Contributions for the week of January 13, 2025

@gorge:

@FiveHourMarathon:

@faceh:

@hooser:

@Rov_Scam:

Contributions for the week of January 20, 2025

@NelsonRushton:

@WandererintheWilderness:

@Hoffmeister25:

@Dean:

@FCfromSSC:

@DaseindustriesLtd:

@naraburns:

Contributions for the week of January 27, 2025

@seven:

@felis-parenthesis:

@NelsonRushton:

@jeroboam:

@Corvos:

@SteveAgain:

@RenOS:

@HonoriaWinchester:

@Rov_Scam:

@Capital_Room:

@gorge:

@Tanista:

@Amadan:

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@HonoriaWinchester's comment is the best Motte comment I can remember reading. It should be the first one shown in The Vault.

("We have Roko's Basilisk at home." is the second best comment I can remember.)

Even so I can easily see it pushing a lot of people from "Let them die" to "Kill them preemptively." And if that sounds extreme consider that it's the default position in a lot of places.

‘A lot’ is stretching it, true death penalty for sodomy is the case in Iran, a few parts of Africa, Gaza, and probably Afghanistan. Sodomy Carries a lengthy prison sentence in Saudi Arabia, India, Morocco etc, but in practice they don’t execute for it- even the ones that have it as a theoretical maximum penalty.

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