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Kashmir and the eternal motte and bailey of the soyjeet mind
Yesterday, terrorists, muslim terrorists, killed innocent tourists in Kashmir. They asked people their names, checked if they were circumcised or not, to ensure that the people killed were Hindu. The reaction to this news has been predictable. The right wing or the boomer wing wants more state control and will be fine with 24/7 mandatory survellance of every cell phone whilst the online soy left is back to its motte and bailey games. You can check places like /r/librandu, /r/kashmiri and /r/vaushv for takes there where people cannot openly celebrate it, so they have to resort to calling religions bad. "Religions are bad, we must all be atheists". This is thinly veiled, though I am not coming out of my hiatus to link to an unfortunate tragedy or point out logical fallacies.
Kashmir has been unstable since its independence due to being run by a tiny Hindu population and a large Muslim underclass. Indian independence meant that the feudal states would be disbanded and democratic elections would replace the ruling class. This meant death for Kashmiris. The place was on the brink of collapse, only saved by Jamwals, a nearby Rajput clan, literally buying it from the Brits and allowing Kashmiri Pandits breathing space. Both groups are upper caste, the highest two varnas and made up nearly all of the Hindu population of a muslim place.
This bit of history is important to understand recent attacks. Kashmir, at one time, was a place with quite a few Buddhists. Kashmir Shaivism, the local religious sect of Hinduism, was not on bad terms, and plenty did convert, unfortunately post post-Islamic invasions, you saw Muslim populations rise via conversions. The higher caste Hindus there, the Brahmins, the Kashmiri Pandits, were facing active persecution, and the religion itself was nearly dead. Until the State was established.
Jamwals were mercenaries from the neighbouring Himachal Pradesh, and very likely descendants of the same stock as me, as once claimed by the current King. Shaivism and the Kashmiri Pandits were saved, but things would get worse. The largest displacement started in 1991 with the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits from Srinagar and since then, they have been living in various parts of the nation, unable to ever go back to Srinagar.
The underclass actively resented the ruling class. Unlike Buddhists, muslims did not like Hinduism and seeing a minority that is responsible for every single thing good about your culture that can whip you at any time did not sit well with them. 1947 offered a break with Pakistan, a nation formed simply to support the rights of Mujeets (muslim pajeets) and quasi socialists like the INC, led by a kashmiri pandit in Nehru being squarely against the Dogra Dynasty. The problem India now faces is that the people who were displaced can never return unless you allows Kashmir to escape the laws of India.
The Indian state is a nanny state, whilst Americans can own guns and even hunt, anything beyond a knife will get you felony charges. Given that the state runs on explicit bioleninism, this meant that Islamic ghettos here become no-go zones. Police officers do not enter these ghettos, and you would find azaan playing in the background in most Indian cities simply because people live in secluded places. Kashmir today is that ghetto, but instead of 5-10 percent of the population, it's closer to 99.
India can never allow its citizens the right to own guns and rule a piece of land with any amount of sovereignty, this act actively delegitimises the state. Having a place next to you where people lead better lives with actual freedom would raise questions no one wants to answer. Kashmir will keep getting worse, the area will get more militarised, the mujeet youth will take up anti hindu activities more as they get less options for the future due to economic collapse and Indian state will intrude furhter into the lives of ordinary citizens.
My own biases are quite apparent. I came to this place a broken man. I was 20, and I was sure that my life would collapse sometime soon. I was able to change my ways this year due to my discovery of Kashmir Shaivism(not a Kashmiri btw). My family itself has personal ties or at least used to have ties with the Dogra Dynasty's current head and also the muslim ruling class and their last popular chief minister, whom I will not name for privacy concerns. The locals will always hate the Hindus, the leftists here do that too, they are just too cowardly to admit that they do too. Motte and Bailey was my favourite slatestarcodex post, helps explain a lot of what I grew up seeing.
What is a pajeet? Urbandictionary has it variously as a slur which could refer to Canadian Sikhs, north Indians, Hindus, Indians in general, or any South Asian.
In India, people use it to refer to anyone who belongs to the underclass or acts like they are a member of it. It started as a slur for sikhs via 4chan. It is used as a catch-all for south asians who act in a way befitting a slur, which is most of this place, unfortunately.
To everyone outside the subcontinent it is used as a generic racial slur against Indians and other subcontinentals. There is no distinction whatsoever between the ones who look and act a certain way or different castes/classes which makes your usage of the term risible. It’s like an Israeli from some small Jewish sect calling other Jewish sect kikes. “Ah those Neturei Karta KIKES are at it again! Not like us noble Breslov Hasidim! Don’t you know this slur has always referred to the BAD Jews?”
Yeah, I don't fully agree and jews themselves exist in distinct groups. Asheknazis are different from sephadrics.
A jew using the word kike and me using it are different things, ditto for pajeet. There is an underclass and it now has a collective name.
And all this happened because Sikhs, telugus and some others abused the living shit out of the migration system so bad that anyone sane would vote for remigration. The people whose antics got the word coined are a good chunk even within the west. This is a terrible thing because most people cannot differentiate between a hard working lawyer who migrated on his own from some city in Himachal vs a guy who got there through illicit means.
I should not be using the word as much, I think you're right now that I think about it.
I guess this is how American southerners feel about being called 'Yankees'.
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"...you fucking kikes are making us Jews look bad!" (c) a joke about Jews.
I've heard it also works for black people.
Indeed, there is a whole Chris Rock bit from the 90s where he talks about "there's black people, and there's niggas. And niggas have got to go". Anecdotally, I would say that matches my experience. My wife and her family really do not like the dumb-ass black people who make them look bad by association.
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It’s less effective as a joke when OP uses it unironically and when you consider he constantly mentions his caste and noble family connections in between (and sometimes even within) sad posts about his chronic unemployment and overall underachievement. He’s been doing this for years across various accounts with little self-awareness.
That's not an unfair view of things. I have had issues but I'm not crossing borders illegally, posting rape threats or staring at girls on the street. My descriptions here paint a far worse picture because I have a hard time appreciating anything decent in life.
Same goes for my employment issues, I chose to take time off to learn more things than my peers because I wouldn't have found the same line of employment where one hates showing up to office and knows nothing beyond leet code questions to be worthwhile, I did the equivalent of that in college. My sabbatical isn't ideal, but I did the right thing.
I should not use the word as muc,h though, slurs are not nice to use. Indians have a much worse image now than before, having slurs that for people of the subcontinent isn't good in such scenarios.
Also, I mentioned the faint previous ties to say that my analysis of the issue had some indirect inputs from people who were relevant at one point in time. The mentions of caste and other details exist to provide context for whatever is here. I don't go around driving with a "Brahmin" or equivalent sticker on my car. Castes are more or less dead in many ways beyond marriage. I do care about castes but that is a private matter.
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It is completely fucking wild to me that some random 4chan slur gets adopted by it's target nation for their own underclass. Is this widespread? Is it just their westernized too online NEET class? I must know more.
I actively played a role in this unfortunately, twitter is the only place where you find any semblance freedom, though it's still terrible, pajeet twitter became a thing.
Indians, the upper classes have always seen themselves as different people from the underclass, so Sikhs being the target of the slur and it being used people around them had an impact. It's not a popular term at all but it will be.
4chan is undefeated, check out bharatchan.com for more info
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I haven't been out of India for even a year now, and I can promise you I've never heard anyone call anyone else a Pajeet in real life, nor online. OP has a rather unusual online circle.
Some people picked it from me, it's not used as much now but it'll be soon. My online circle is quite unusual tho lol
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Subcontinentals are extremely classist (which is funny because virtually all of them, even those highly educated Model Minority types far outearning Westerners, remain lower-class-coded in the Western mind) so it's no wonder they found a catchy slur appropriate.
“Pajeet” is not a real Indian name, but that's really a nitpick because there are tons of legitimate names that are very similar. I sometimes interact with people called something like “Rajeet Patel” and it's a bit awkward how I can't not associate them with 4chan memes.
Subcontinent has extreme levels of scarcity. The big tragedy here is not that the vast majority of people are a part of the underclass, it's that the elites behave just like them.
People gauge your class by how fluent or non Indian sounding your English is. Hell, even the sports people watch reflect their class. Richer ones who are not completely dehati will watch f1 as cricket is seen as a lower class thing.
The Jeet thing is quite funny, a guy literally named winnerjeet singh was a meme a few years ago because he got 3 votes in an election in Punjab.
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