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Although I have been pessimistic about American race relations since President Obama held a press conference on national television to insert himself into an otherwise unnewsworthy local crime by informing the country that 'if [he] had a son, he would look at lot like Trayvon' - it seems to be a good bit worse than I had feared. There's a truly open and unabashed fervor behind the death of white people, which I had in some ways previously chalked up to still being just a bit of 'those kids on tumblr'.
Read some of the comments in the last few hours from Karmelo Anthony's givesendgo fundraiser. Karmelo is suspected of stabbing a young white boy to death. His family has already raised more than half a million dollars with no end in sight.
https://www.givesendgo.com/HelpKarmelo
It's worth noting that in at least one place (https://old.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/1jzgmzs/please_explain_karmelo_anthony_support/), the response to this from self-professed liberals has been pretty uniformly, "stabbing people is wrong."
that is worth noting, but it's also worth noting that their fundraiser was allowed to operate, in contrast to those of, for example, Gardner and Rittenhouse. This is a concrete way in which our society observably treats red-tribe lawful self-defense as strictly worse than blue-tribe lawless murder.
It's really not that concrete at all. In the rittenhouse case, rittenhouse claimed to be provoked into acting in self defense (credibly) but his opposition claims (also credibly) that he deliberately created a situation such that that provocation would happen and he would have an excuse to commit violence. In this case, the stabber also claims that he was acting in self-defense (unknown credibleness), but no one (so far) claims that he was looking for an excuse. Plus there's the additional matter of him using a knife, rather than a gun, and killing one person instead of many. The situations at hand are neither symmetric nor complementary.
Personally speaking, I do martial arts, and I would consider pulling a knife on someone who wants to throw hands a reasonable, proportionate act. There are far too many ways to get permanently injured or killed from blunt trauma. I would not consider it reasonable to then attack them with that knife if they backed off-- but maybe the football player saw the knife, assumed there was going to be some stabbing, grabbed for it-- and as a consequence, got Rittenhouse'd. Is that what happened? I don't know. But I'm content to say, "stabbing people is bad" and let the rest sort itself out through the legal system.
(I don't know anything about the gardener case. When I look up "gardener murder" I get a convict who committed a bunch of rapes and murders.)
What? What martial arts do you do where it's acceptable or proportionate to pull a knife? Kali?
Martial arts are sports and he's obviously not pulling a real life in a sparring match.
He'd talking about pulling a knife in a real fight, one in which you have no guarantee that the attacker will stop kicking once you're unconscious - and in that case pulling a knife or a firearm is obviously completely proportional. The defender has no moral obligation to risk his life to increase the safety of the attacker. If you don't want to get stabbed, don't attack people. Simple as.
It's absolutely shocking to me how effeminate our culture has become, that anyone can consider use of a knife or gun to be proportional self defense to an offer of fisticuffs.
I wouldn't call it effeminate when most women seem to be absolutely averse to carrying a gun/knife, let alone ready to stab a motherfucker.
The statement: he threatened to punch me and I was scared for my life is effeminate.
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