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Controversial Twitch streamer Hasan Piker allegedly uses a shock collar on his dog on stream.
It is narrative shorthand for a villain - to emphasize his wickedness and complete removal from the family of man - to kick a dog for no reason other than vicious spite. While on air last night, expounding upon his hatred of America and its violence and imperialism, his dog Kaya stands up behind him. A Tibetan mastiff/guardhound mix, the streamer purchased her a long time ago as a puppy. Nowadays, she spends the majority of her waking existence sitting behind him, in camera as a prop during his streams. As soon as he sees that she's moving off the bed, he shouts at her, and reaches for something off-camera. Immediately afterwards, the dog yelps as she tries to lay back down.
It is obviously a shock collar that is being used. No amount of denial or snarky comments can get anyone to believe that their lying eyes can see any differently. And if you think that's an overstatement - I invite you to see the footage for yourself. The fact that the man still has a career after saying "America deserved 9/11" is testament to the country's tolerance for extreme left-wing radicalization, but this might very well be the thing that can take him down. Americans love their dogs: creatures of innocent, adoring love for man. The fact that Hasan uses his dog to sustain his flagging social media presence - in emotes and in donation messages - is a transparent attempt to associate his vile personality with an animal's emotional resonance.
You can tell a lot about a character of a man by his treatment of creatures who depend entirely upon his good will and care for their lives. By this metric, Hasan is a despotic and evil blackguard. One hopes that these clips are shown at tonight's congressional hearing to the Twitch CEO. At the very least, it will be entertaining to see how the man deflects for his pet demagogue. Perhaps, in a peace offering, he can offer to collar the streamer?
I find Hasan's brand repellent and emblematic of the current era of internet fame; Of course the top political streamer on Twitch is a handsome rich vapid LA socialite
I had the misfortune to be swiping the other week and among the endless "You better also be an anti-capitalist queer ally Free Palestine LGBTQTQBLG! or else" Profiles was one that went a step further by raving about how dreamy Hasan Piker is. This made me put down my phone for a while. In what universe is talking about your favorite e-boy a good look?
Which app were you swiping?
Hinge.
Maybe you’re just in a bad spot. I was pleasantly surprised by the Hinge algorithm. It seemed to figure out what I like pretty quick.
I've never run into a torrent of the like on Hinge either - I have a few deal-breakers, obnoxious politics are one of them, and after hitting X on a number of people the app seemed to figure out that I don't want to see more of them.
I've never used dating apps. It would be pointless; since I'm in the DC area, white women who aren't the type to put those "HATE HAS NO HOME HERE / NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL" signs in their yards are damned few and far between unless you go way beyond the reach of public transit (I have no car).
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