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https://www.newsweek.com/video-appears-to-show-new-ice-shooting-in-minneapolis-11411971
Ice shooting round 2 has kicked off. Numerous rumors already flying around but will be a bit before we have facts I imagine.
EDIT: I've been asked to add some relevant points, I'll say: this comment has links to various angles: https://www.themotte.org/post/3493/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/405295?context=8#context This comment mentions the "Sig misfire" angle that I've seen a bit: https://www.themotte.org/post/3493/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/405451?context=8#context
Walz has activatedthe national guard: https://x.com/MnDPS_DPS/status/2012614253090619619 The NBA postponed the Minnesota/Golden State game tonight.
The video looks BAAAAD. Would like to see resident Trump supporters explain this one.
You can’t see the hands or arms of the decedent. It looks either good nor bad. More facts are required.
Even if LEO did something bad, the benefits of removing thousands of illegal immigrants is worth it. Probably saves American lives in the aggregate.
LEO are under immense stress. Listen to the start of the video. Multiply that day by day. These protestors are nuts.
This is ultimately the best justification. As far as I can tell there's no argument against this.
The argument against it is pretty easy and clear. You can remove thousands of illegal immigrants without this chaotic clusterfuck the Trump admin has unleashed on Minneapolis. It's a cliche at this point, but Obama deported illegal immigrants at twice the pace of Donald Trump. And he did so while managing not to kill any American citizens.
But that line of argument basically goes 'the left can veto any right immigration policy enforcement with a heckler's veto', because they'll never cooperate with the right, ever, even when they lose elections.
The left won't cooperate with the right? They passed an immigration reform act the summer before the 2024 election and Donald Trump torpedoed it. This was a commonsense reform that Trump knew would harm him politically, so he cynically (politically effectively) killed the bill. The right would rather use immigration as their bogeyman than do anything real to prevent it.
The act in question would still allow significant illegal immigration. Also, it was perfectly in their power to do something about it without an act of congress, and they refused to, thus proving they never wanted to stop it to begin with.
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