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My fiancée just asked me what's the distaff counterpart to the term "manchild".
I told her that there isn't one, and that this lexical gap Says A Lot About Our Society.
Joking aside, any proposed neologisms to fill this gap? "Womanchild" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
“Airhead?” “Bimbo?”
Interesting. "Airhead" denotes a woman who's not very intelligent. "Bimbo" denotes a woman who's not very intelligent in addition to being physically attractive.
I'm not sure if either of these is quite the same as "manchild": I think the thing that makes "manchild" insulting is the accusation of immaturity, not idiocy. Some immature men can be intelligent, at least in a particular narrow domain.
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"Spinster". However current western society expects, for better or for worse, almost nothing from women (one could argue, in a "the purpose of a system is what it does” sense, that it exists primarily for the whims of women) so the term is outdated.
It’s just the classic free rider problem in action. Too many of the current generation (and a substantially large percentage of my own quite sadly) want the benefits of civilization but refuse to cooperate with the group to make it possible. All one has to do is look at divorce rates alone to see that too many of them can’t be depended on to act loyally to their husbands (I’ve seen it repeatedly); all of whom are second rate when compared to their flights of fancy or for them to willingly accept the weight of vows they make on their day of marriage. It’s why so many cultures developed such intense suppressive measures on their behavior, because fleeting, short-term self-interest was always omnipresent and always rotting away the institutions needed to uphold functioning society.
If women fail to cooperate then men fail to participate and next thing you know we’re all thrown out of Eden.
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Hmm. I think "manchild" refers to men who are immature, whereas to me "spinster" denotes a woman who failed to land a man. I think the closest equivalent in modern slang is "femcel".
Different connotation. A femcel is involuntarily celibate woman, but a manchild is a man who has failed to mature. A man child is not necessarily an incel. Ineed it's most often women in a relationship with a man who try to neg him into taking more of a responsibility in the relationship by calling him a manchild.
I agree, that's why I was saying I don't think "spinster" is the female equivalent to "manchild".
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I’ve met high status and accomplished women who forego a relationship and family life due to their professional commitments or sense of a greater vision for something they’re passionate about. I don’t see that as a problem at all. It’s the ones who think they ‘can’ [and subsequently fail] to accomplish both that often become spinsters. These lifestyles are fine insofar as the costs get born by the women who make them. Where it becomes unacceptable is when the costs are paid (and generally wasted) by society via tax money.
In the past, men were responsible for providing for their wife and children (as they should be). They produce the surplus to support them and in return the woman provides household services and children for their husbands. Today that dynamic has now become a parasitic one, because women depend on the coercive power of the government to strong arm and extract wealth from men while providing them with nothing in return (child support and alimony testify to these examples); and it’s all to uphold a system of false “equality” that’s built entirely off massive wealth transfers. One result of this incidentally has meant that working age men have substantially less wealth to afford forming families of their own.
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Well in my mind society deemed women mature when they fulfilled their gender tole which was mostly wife, mother, etc.
Also why spinster lacks a male equivalent
It's "(confirmed) bachelor."
I thought that was traditionally used as a euphemism for a gay man.
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There are two definitions of “manchild.” One is a man who doesn’t uphold adult responsibilities, sarker’s definition. The other is a man whose hobbies are considered childish or underdeveloped. I guess this is more the counterpart of Quirk Chungus or 5434a’s Disney adult.
The two are frequently conflated, sometimes by women as a justification for their ick at male hobbies like gaming or science fiction or LEGO, and sometimes by men as a dominance play against other men they consider beneath them because they indulge in said icky hobbies. Sometimes women will just use “manchild” to refer to a man who is emotionally underdeveloped, in whatever way she thinks he is, like in the Sabrina Carpenter song.
All words with emotional valence eventually just become synonyms of “good” or “bad.” Manchild is one of them. We have plenty of female equivalents — “basic bitch” is one women like for the hobby sense, “foid” is closer to the Sabrina Carpenter usage as deployed by men. For the other equivalents used by men, read the motte.
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Not as catchy and not explicitly gendered but when I hear "Disney adult" I think of women.
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“Woman.”
Just like how “strong, independent woman” is a buzzphrase but “strong, independent man” is not.
My good man, I'd have expected nothing less from you.
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Isn't Quirk Chungus the counterpart to Manchild?
A manchild is a man who can't handle adult responsibilities, but a quirk chungus is just a woman with an annoying personality.
Depends on what you mean by "adult responsibilities", if it's just being able to support and take care of yourself then you're wrong. Here's a fellow poster calling himself manchild, and detailing what he means by that.
If by "adult responsibilities" you mean starting and supporting a family, or devoting yourself to some serious pursuit, then Quirk Chungus pretty analogous.
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I didn't think that was a gendered term.
I don't think I've ever seen it used to refer to a man, and it's the literal counterpart to the "Man Child" in the original comic that popularized the phrase (which has left the original context specified in the comic - boring-ass Millennial slice-of-life webcomics).
I looked up the second panel shown in your link. Is this supposed to be some kind of a cuckold thing? She's got an arm around her but Man Child is sitting on the couch watching.
Yes, but note that that second image is not part of the original comic.
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"Girlfailure", but it's more affectionate than disdainful, because apparently we don't in fact hold women to female-specific standards of maturity.
"I'm so random" maybe.
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