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An interesting "false flag" in the transgender culture war: a mystery group is impersonating a transgender group and sending texts and flyers to the wrong people:
https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/texans-receive-texts-impersonating-transgender-advocacy-group/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/trans-student-mailers-hit-texas-210015782.html
As far as I can tell, of course, the transgender groups in question have no disagreement with the contents in these messages, but they have been sent to the wrong people. They want this content to stay on the down low and for parents not to know about it. As on twitter poster put it "The trans people wouldn’t be stupid enough to send this out right before midterms unless they thought you were trans" (emphasis added). The pages on the websites that the pamphlets and texts linked to have been taken down, though archive links show they had content on them previously: https://web.archive.org/web/20261005063417/https://transtexas.org/trans-texas-takeover-tour/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260807023304/https://transtexas.org/resources/ which is a very interesting thing to do for a group that presumably wants people to attend their tour and have access to some resources.
This does reinforce the idea that the trans project is both unpopular and/or secretly transing kids without their parents knowing, as they reacting with horror that parents are being exposed to their message.
This hiding behavior is certainly not standard among all groups. Most groups would be thrilled to get free publicity pointed to their website, even if the messages are coming from an anonymous benefactor (assuming it doesn't get them on a spam shitlist or something). Nevertheless, it does seem like democrat ideology mandates that they support the maximalist trans movement, and their solution is to distance from it.
It's not a difficult mystery at all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_propaganda
The Republican midterm strategy has been to repeatedly yell transgender and immigration over and over and over again at voters like the 9/11 family guy skit, hoping to get people to look past the financial disaster/corruption/etc.
We have motive. We have means. We have opportunity. They seem to be targeting right wing families in particular.
And we have evidence of it being a psyop already given the supposed group has no previous history and the only existing organization it has any attachment to has said it's an unauthorized usage of their name.
To be clear, your position here is "Republicans are truthfully spreading the things their opponents believe, and this is a bad thing"?
If so, I'm confused at why you're comparing it to "Black Propaganda", which is definitionally about untrue stuff (according to Wikipedia, which is only honest).
If your position is that Republicans are untruthfully spreading things their opponents don't actually support: which things? It might help your comment to be explicit.
The organization is not a serious activist group and does not seem to exist for any other purpose except as a psyop, how does that not inherently count as untrue?
The created story here "the trans are trying to reach your kids through the mail" is not real.
Are you pretending the content of their message is an untrue reflection of their opponents' beliefs? Because you keep avoiding addressing this.
I don't consider you a serious activist group; does that mean your comment is untrue?
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The created story is 'the trans believe X,Y,Z thing that horrifies the normies', which is indeed real.
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Could you try replying to the words in my comment?
Sure
Never said either A or B of this.
So back at your words, try replying to what is in my comment.
Is there a more proper term for pretending to be from an "enemy organization" in this way? From what I can tell black propaganda is the closest one.
I'm also not sure it is definitionally about untrue stuff only. "Black propaganda definition" on Google gets me "Black propaganda is a deceptive form of communication that hides its true origin and falsely attributes the message to an enemy, rival, or a fake authority to damage their reputation, undermine morale, or manipulate public opinion."
Nothing there requires the message to be misrepresenting.
And dictionary.com strictly says "propaganda that does not come from the source it claims to come from".
Again nothing there requires it to be misrepresented, merely that the source is a lie. Although I guess they actually made the organization as an LLC, so it's not strictly a lie to say it came from the "Texas transgender student union" as that does exist and was created a month ago for this purpose, it's just purposefully deceptive in the intention is to make people think this is some trans activists.
It's a fake organization. Again not strictly fake, but the way people are meant to interpret it is obvious. And that intended interpretation is false.
So, I ask you a clarifying question: "Are you saying X?" I also add: "If you're NOT saying X, then (...)"
And, in your world, asking the question means I'm not replying to your comment?
That's pretty disingenuous.
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I mean, the OP used "false flag", which is the general term (including non-propaganda stuff, like the Nazi false-flag attacks on themselves used as a pretext for the invasion of Poland).
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This is on par with "I asked the AI and that's what it said".
I gave you two sources but sure let's check some more from my Google search of "black propaganda definition"
The next result is Collins dictionary which says https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/black-propaganda#google_vignette
Next is Salisbury University https://libapps.salisbury.edu/nabb-online/exhibits/show/propaganda/what-is-propaganda-/the-colors-of-propaganda
Then is the Southern Methodist University https://www.physics.smu.edu/pseudo/Propaganda/black.html
And last here's the "media manipulation casebook" https://mediamanipulation.org/definitions/propaganda/
Weird how none of these links mention falsehood or misrepresentation of material as a necessary detail. Why did they all coincidentally miss that memo? If you can not provide a valid explanation for why all of these preexisting sources all happen to make the same mistake, then kindly stop arguing this point.
Heck even if we want to go to "well that's not what Wikipedia says", actually it does too. For example we can see their short definition in this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Black_propaganda
Or just by looking at the first paragraph of the main Wikipedia page!
It's not about whether or not it misrepresented the source, it's about attribution to a false source. The disinformation is because it's literally not from the correct source, the sourcing is a lie.
Which is why the end of the paragraph is
Typically is an odd word for something apparently necessary in the definition. Typically is a word used when there are exceptions!
Likewise it says later
Weird if it was a necessary part they would use "sometimes" and not "all times" for spreading lies, tabrications, and deceptions.
I am right, it is not a necessary part of the definition.
Are you claiming that the actual beliefs of real trans advocacy organizations are propaganda lies meant to discredit them, comparable to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
Do you really not get the distinction people are drawing here?
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By the organization being real and serious, and the evidence for it being in the OP?
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