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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 24, 2023

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Our current orthodoxies won't last.

Meh. Ideologies have no natural expiration date. They can last for months, or they can last for millennia. Imagine watching Christianity rise to power in late antiquity and thinking "it won't last, it's too braindead, no one actually believes this..."

True, nothing lasts forever, but you're dealing with a timescale of 2,000 years, not 20 or even 200.

A sizable portion of the population is bought into wokeism for life. They will never ever change. The people in their 20s and 30s now who have been permanently indoctrinated with wokeism will play the role that the conservative Moral Majority did in the 80s and 90s. In another decade or two there may (keyword may, it's not guaranteed) be a youth rebellion movement that challenges wokeism, but they will necessarily face resistance from the entrenched power structure.

The problem for you guys, when it comes to a "youth rebellion," is a right-wing one hasn't happened in forever, at least among the West.

Even the shift to the Right of young voters in the '70s and 80's, wasn't because of some great moral turn by Gen Xers (as we see that the height of teen pregnancy, drug use, etc. all happens near the start of the 90's) or rise in racism or sexism or bigotry, but because of bad economic times, plus the conservative movement (previously split between the GOP & Dixiecrats) accepting mostly defeat on the big questions of the 60's and 70's - there would be no resegregation, no putting women back in the home, no repeal of Medicare, and so forth.

The median 18 year old in 1985 was more liberal personally and possibly even politically, than an 18 year old in 1965, it's just the GOP wasn't continuing to fight the fights of the previous generation, as the current GOP and right-wing movement might end up doing.

It was pretty obvious watching 3rd century christianity that some large portion of these people were true believers. I don’t think this is true for the woke- what wokesters face actual-factual martyrdom? The histrionics about trans genocide are just that- histrionics.

The christianity of early christians has not that much to do with how it was practiced later.

Well, you can say so, and I can disagree.

Who practices community of goods now?

This is a spectacularly non-central example.

We don't appoint leaders by lot any more, either.

But to answer the question, monastics do.

You know the joke about the communist dissident arrested by secret police for handing out blank sheets of papers in public?

What do you mean, “communist”? That's present-day Russia: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TbzV1it1YPY

It identifies who it's against just fine: "the people in charge". It's hardly an ambiguous label, and more than precise enough for the task at hand. It also identifies what it's for just fine: "Americans saying true things", the spaces that allow them to do so, and the opposition they form to "the people in charge".

At this stage, what more is necessary?

Isn't it a bit ambiguous? Are the people in charge the Biden Administration colluding with Corrupt Corporatist CEOs? Is it the diffuse consensus of the cathedral that's in charge? Or is it a few hidden puppetmasters pulling the strings? People who believe all three love tucker's statement, despite them being contradictory. And what are they doing wrong - too much welfare, or too little welfare (for the white working class)? Transing the kids? Replacing us with browns? Etc

It's not ambiguous at all to his intended audience.

It's basically the final paragraph of @FCfromSSC's reply below.

People who believe all three love tucker's statement, despite them being contradictory.

These statements do not appear terribly contradictory to me. If the biden administration is colluding with corrupt corporatist CEOs, why would they be doing that if it weren't for the diffuse consensus of the cathedral? How do either of those preclude a few hidden puppet-masters pulling strings?

It seems obvious to me that all three of your statements are true. There are definately puppet-masters pulling strings, there is definately a diffuse cathedral consensus, and there is definately collusion between the Biden administration and corrupt corporatist CEOs. Blue Tribe is vast and highly complex, comprising at least several dozen million people, many of them from the upper strata of society. Why would its workings be reducible to a single story? If we tried to describe the politics of renaissance Italy, would it be reducible to a binary "it's the medicis" or "it's the doge"?

If you want to reduce it down to a single cause, you have to get really, really general: It's Enlightenment ideology doing what it always does.

And what are they doing wrong

Again, lots of things.

If tucker gave a specific answer encapsulated into a sentence or two, it would either be incomprehensible to a general audience, or so vague as to be meaningless. Either way, I suspect you'd object to any such simplification as being excessively reductive.

What he actually does is what Reds are increasingly doing: making a statement in favor of status-independence from the Blue Tribe. There's plenty of time to drill down to specifics, but first we must agree that we are not going to grant Blue lies power over our thinking any longer. Blue status attacks are flatly illegitimate, and their methods of enforcing conformity must be rejected. That's the start of overthrowing their order: recognizing the demand for consent, and refusing to grant it.

Nick Fuentes claims that he's a spook

and that he is leaving Fox after being exposed by the Dominion lawsuit.

Some text message in which he claims he has been thinking every single day for 4 years that Trump is a demon.

He doesn't have to. Almost all of the interesting things happen on the "is" side of the is-ought distinction. You don't say, "we ought to ban transgender athletes from women's sports." You say "people born with penises aren't women," and the ought becomes obvious.

Of course, the reason this works is that the left is already using is-statements as a shortcut for oughts. On this matter, the ought-debate has been near-completely abandoned.

There is no ought debate, there is only reeeeeee-ing on twitter or hitting eachother with rocks.

Atleast there is an is there to have a debate about.