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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
It seems to me the ball is still in Israel's court, and they're fumbling. The longer time goes on without a highly visible and high Δp response, the more appetizing they appear to sharks. It's not about 4d chess, it's about sending a message.
There is no way in hell Europe is going to take in Palestinian refugees. It is already a hot button issue and politicians would be suicidal to let in people who just committed one of the largest terrorist attacks in recent history.
Europe doesn’t have the stomach to blow the current refugee boats out of the water or repatriate them or whatever. I’m not ruling out that millions of terrorists might change the equation, but history is not inspiring.
It depends on how fast they can turn them to voters thanks to more lax citizenship laws. Germany absolutely cratered theirs under this new government for this reason.
I hope you're right. The world seems absurd to me at the moment, and I can't see anything as beyond the pale.
What exactly do you expect to happen if Palestinians start getting dropped in the sea, to be picked up by the already existing transport network of NGOs?
I don't know what they planned but remember that Hamas has a lot of hostages. They will probably do something spectacular but useless, unless they want to sacrifice the lives of the hostages which I doubt.
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It seems to me the ball is still in Israel's court, and they're fumbling. The longer time goes on without a highly visible and high Δp response, the more appetizing they appear to sharks. It's not about 4d chess, it's about sending a message.
https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1712673207202070883
I don't think this will not be highly visible, at the very fucking least.
If they actually go through with it, I wonder if we're going to start hearing how necessary it is for Europe to take in the refugees again.
There is no way in hell Europe is going to take in Palestinian refugees. It is already a hot button issue and politicians would be suicidal to let in people who just committed one of the largest terrorist attacks in recent history.
Europe doesn’t have the stomach to blow the current refugee boats out of the water or repatriate them or whatever. I’m not ruling out that millions of terrorists might change the equation, but history is not inspiring.
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Would it be suicidal over the long-term for leftist European politicians to take in such refugees?
It depends on how fast they can turn them to voters thanks to more lax citizenship laws. Germany absolutely cratered theirs under this new government for this reason.
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I hope you're right. The world seems absurd to me at the moment, and I can't see anything as beyond the pale.
What exactly do you expect to happen if Palestinians start getting dropped in the sea, to be picked up by the already existing transport network of NGOs?
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They’ve worked out what USA is prepared to support. They gave the UN 24 hours to evacuate forty percent of the strip.
I don't know what they planned but remember that Hamas has a lot of hostages. They will probably do something spectacular but useless, unless they want to sacrifice the lives of the hostages which I doubt.
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