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naraburns  nihil supernum  6mo ago (text post)   12663 thread views

Israel-Gaza Megathread #3

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How many Jews feel like this now? Glad you all are feeling how I’ve felt for a few years that your just an ethnic white now and hopefully we can ally. Eisman from the Big Short (funny how Jews pop up in any event) says all his family went to UPenn and UPenn is dead to them now.

I said a week or two ago if the Jews picked some random school like Eastern Kentucky it would be a top 5-10 school in a generation.

https://twitter.com/sfmcguire79/status/1720428030168895506?s=46&t=aQ6ajj220jubjU7-o3SuWQ

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(funny how Jews pop up in any event)

Snide asides like this add only heat. Please don't.

I always thought it was ultra cringe to have these rando finance guys’ names plastered over everything in academia, which should be above that. Hopefully schools learn their lesson and stop bothering with these clowns.

Nice platitude but those clowns are the hand that feeds them.

I said a week or two ago if the Jews picked some random school like Eastern Kentucky it would be a top 5-10 school in a generation.

Nothing is more Lindy then universities.

The list of top universities in 1960 is substantially the same as it is today.

Lots of places have tried to improve their rankings but it doesn't seem to work. Back in ancient times, I'm pretty sure Nebraska or some random school offered me a full ride based on my PSAT score. This strategy to recruit high-IQ students clearly didn't move the needle for them.

It’s because HYPS and the tier below schools always make sure to take the absolute best even as they also make sure to take donors’/board members’ kids and the requisite diversity intake.

So if normally the top 0.3% of graduating high schoolers would go to that tier of college under a purely meritocratic system, now only the top 0.1% go (math and physics olympiad winners etc) and so do those other groups. But because IQ has a very long tail, skimming off only the top 0.1% instead of 0.3% still means they get most of the best people - even if the system isn’t ‘fair’.

because IQ has a very long tail

IQ is fit to a normal distribution

I wrote something retarded but meant to say tail effects.

It's not tail effects either.

I know what you are trying to say, there's just no phrase for it.

That would work if their product was education. I don't think a Harvard education is worth 200K more than free education. Now the signaling value (even if you get fired from every job you subsequently get for incompetence) and "I went to Harvard" card that you have for the rest of your life, 200K is probably a deal for that.

So he's angry that a certain number of protestors held up signs stating, "Free Palestine from the river to the sea," and now he wants to take his ball and go home?

Okay.

Seriously, what do people like him expect? “Oh the name on this scholarship sounds kinda Jewish, I love Israel now.”

funny how Jews pop up in any event

I'm not a moderator, but please don't.

Well I made the comment on purpose. Because Jews really do pop up everywhere despite their small numbers. I do it because they are an important people who contribute to civilization.

Using statistically accurate language would be clearer for the audience of The Motte.

what school is the Eisman clan going to, now?

Are they having enough kids, and willing to spend enough money, that their influence can be applied to another school?

Why isn't yeshiva university considered a top school then, when it's mostly Jewish? Is it because they get the third tier, orthodox Jews, and not the first tier IQ ashkanazi secular Jews?

Prestige comes from rankings ie research ie faculty. In many STEM (and other) fields top departments are already substantially Jewish. Jewish parents sending their kids to Yeshiva University instead of Harvard won’t affect rankings, if any YU grad wants to go into academia at the top level they’ll go to Princeton or MIT or whatever for postgrad (if they can), and then if they’re good they’ll stay or move to a similar university. Very few YU grads go into academia.

For Jewish schools to poach the best Jewish faculty from the Ivies you’d need an overt, explicit purge of Jewish faculty from Harvard etc which just isn’t likely.

so you are saying if some jews go to yeshiva it doesn’t change rankings?

so to make eastern kentucky uni the best, it requires ALL the best jews and jewish faculty to go there?

Eisman from the Big Short

YU is the equivalent of the Jewish state school, and it is far better than the meadian state school.

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