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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 30, 2023

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Hungary is a country known for its eclectic-styled Parliament building, classical composers, Jewish STEM people, and, more recently, Viktor Orban. The last enjoying a less uniformly good reputation in the US, than the preceding three.

The American conservatives has collaborated with him, and even held a con in Budapest, but the American progressives (and their ideological allies in Europe) have criticized his policies and rule in general. The main issues they have with are alleged corruption and authoritarianism, alleged anti-LGBTQIA2S+ policies, and most recently, alleged pro-Russia stance.

The recent electoral defeat of the closest thing he has to an ally in the EU, Polish PiS party, probably has him worried. Before he could count on Poland to prevent the sternest EU punishments being meted out, but the victory of Donald T. throws a wrench in Viktors continued plans for Hungary. On the other hand, recent triumph of Fico in the formerly magyarizated country of Slovakia may provide a replacement friend in the EU. In 2022 Hungary net received from the EU 4.444x10^9 EUR, which is 2.5% of the Hungarian 2022 GDP or 13% of the Hungarian 2022 fiscus. It is possible he avoids sanctions by mere surface level changes, while staying the course, but unlike the founding member, New Europe doesn't have the favour of EU leadership, so its violations of EU laws aren't going to be overlooked and forgotten.

The latest news from the landlocked country, formerly ruled by an admiral, is that a photograph exhibition held in Budapest was forced to deny admission to minors. The reason being that some photos depicted members of an "LGBTQ+" community, photos which were described by the director of the exhbition as being "positive and inclusive". The word "censorship" was also used to describe this move to prevent children from being exposed to content which the state deems to be inappropriate for them.

The parallel to the American parents opposed to minors being allowed to view content considered by them to promote or normalize LGBTQIA2S+ lifestyles and thus arguing that school libraries shouldn't stock materials considered controversial, to me appears obvious. I assume that Orbans focus on cutting off children from LGBTQIA2S+ materials is partially motivated by his knowledge of American right wing tactics, gained by their co-operation with him, and partially it being less controversial than cutting off willing adults. Children are still considered to be innocent of sexual knowledge, and attempts to render them not so, are in some cases already illegal.

Disclaimer: @some has blocked me, and won’t be responding to anything I say here.

Can someone remind me what the “2S” is supposed to stand for? I’ve seen LGBTQ+, and I’ve seen QILTBAG, so those are no mystery. Likewise with the occasional culture warrior trying to sneak in an M or P.

I agree that the analogy to various American policies is obvious. At least some of those had the fig leaf—no pun intended—of banning sexually explicit material, while these photographs only appear to reference drag. Presumably the unnamed “far-right Hungarian lawmaker” who filed this complaint is merely picking low-hanging fruit.

Can someone remind me what the “2S”

2S is for Two-Spirit. I don't know exactly what it is, but I think I heard it's some sort of double-gender thing that some indigenous people of somewhere, I think, have or had.

Specifically it's supposed to be used by Native American/First Nations people, some of whose tribes were reportedly accepting of transgender people before the term was invented.

Obviously, X to doubt. It seems like most examples of ‘gender bending in other cultures’ were harshly stigmatized.

It's got an interesting history actually because it's a completely made up neologism made in the 1990s that's pretending to be some ancestral traditional thing.

It's about similar to people who claim various historical figures to be "nonbinary", "trans" or "gay" even as none of those words existed then or would have any relation to people's conceptualization of themselves then.

It's a classic radical tactic really: reframing history in political terms to generate historiography for a novel political movement. Cultural Marxists, or whatever they are called now, inherited this from their communist, and therefore historicist, forefathers.

What it does is play on the idea that all indigenous Americans were living in perfect harmony in a single cohesive society, noble savages that loved everyone until disrupted by the colonizers.

Of course, they were no such thing. Consider the Aztecs:

Mexica law punished sodomy with the gallows, impalement for the active homosexual, extraction of the entrails through the anal orifice for the passive homosexual, and death by garrote for the lesbians.

Interesting. It seems they never came upon an atrocity they didn’t like.

death by garrote for the lesbians.

In mexica culture, this is how one shows great respect and clemency.

impalement for the active homosexual, extraction of the entrails through the anal orifice for the passive homosexual

I see what they did there.

Lesbians get short shrift yet again though - couldn't they choke them on their own tongues or cut them in half with giant scissors or something?

My guess is that the concept of scissoring predated actual real scissors, so this particular ironic execution might have been beyond the ken of these people.

Yeah yeah, men always have an excuse.