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self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
14hr ago
It frankly boggles my imagination how skimpy the clothing is around these parts, given how cold it can get. Even more so in Manchester, where every wo-man seeks to expose as much of their chest as feasible. Not that I'm complaining, especially not when I need motivation to go the gym.
orthoxerox
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14hr ago
Friday hornyposting thread.
I went to the friendly local mall yesterday to buy a bucket hat for my trip to the mountains and it looks like the fashion went full circle. Girls in their late teens now dress like they dressed when I was their age in the early 00's. I couldn't help myself and eyefucked every single one of them as I was walking from shop to shop.
Maybe all these men that suddenly married a much younger woman are victims of cyclical fashion?
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
14hr ago
Jews are widely treated as a kind of endangered species.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
14hr ago
I would be the first to acknowledge that this is a serious risk. You don't want AI becoming entirely autonomous/independent and then outcompeting mankind even if it's not actively malevolent. Being disenfranchised and having the rest of the light cone being snatched out from under our noses would suck, even if we didn't die in the process.
The ideal outcome, as far as I'm concerned, would the opposite of the evil genie in a lamp. In other words, a preternaturally powerful yet benevolent being that has your best interests at heart, and seeks to fulfill your desires instead of twisting them, and also takes orders from you. That is an aspirational goal, but not one that's literally impossible when we're making them from scratch.
The possibility space is large:
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A monopolar scenario, where the AI is malevolent. We all die.
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Multipolar regime of competing AI that are all misaligned. We almost certainly die.
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Monopolar hegemonizing AI that is controlled by human(s), but said humans aren't particularly concerned with the rest of us. We may or may not die, but I wouldn't be happy.
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Everything in between
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(Everything outside)
Corvos
14hr ago
That’s interesting, I didn’t know. Thanks :) All ancient history now but an interesting case.
2rafa
14hr ago
Certainly there are Christian trads who don’t see it that way, but in Israel it’s part of the secular vs conservative culture war where religious conservatives complain about Christmas trees and tinsel at shopping malls and in other public spaces.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
14hr ago
I hate you guys so much -_-
2rafa
14hr ago
It’s possible, but it seems unlikely that one of the probably first few hundred medically transitioned people ever (maybe even the first hundred; there were a couple pre-war, a handful postwar, and then a trickle in the 1960s and 1970s) happened to hide it in an elaborate conspiracy and then became First Lady of France.
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
14hr ago
We have some degree of redistribution in most countries today, for people who for noble or ignoble reasons, can't work on the free market. Eventually, that will be everyone.
Yes, because those people are still made of almost the same stuff as productive people, and are the relatives and friends of productive people, and for reasons of simplicity and history have the same rights as productive people. All of that goes out the window when there are no more productive people. When there is one polity in which AI is the sole producer of value and unproductive humans have value redistributed to them, and another polity in which AI is the sole producer of value and humans are not a factor, then which of the two will perform better?
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
14hr ago
Ghibly
Poser spotted.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
14hr ago
:(
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
14hr ago
People don’t like chatbots just because they’re useful (I don’t think they at present are doing anything that a well thought out google search couldn’t do)
C'mon dude. That "well thought out" bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting. All, or at least most, of the knowledge a doctor possesses is 'out there' somewhere in the vast expanse of the internet, and probably indexed on Google too. I would suggest not trying to replace doctors with Google searches or WebMD, even if doctors use Google and WebMD themselves. Knowing what to ask and how to ask it, alongside weighing it all? That's what you pay us for. I am more than happy to concede that LLMs are a far more existential threat to the profession than Google.
Besides. Google search can't write a poem, generate a picture in the Ghibly style or write your code for you. And it sucks more than it ever has, both due to SEO and Google's own enshittification. Google has given up and begun to use LLMs to solve the problem in search. So, in a way, you're stating that LLMs are only as capable as LLMs.
You imagine yourself a “winner” in this future, so it means a life of luxury and leisure. The reality is probably not so good, as humanity is unlikely to distribute goods to people who do nothing to earn them. We rarely did so, and when we did it tended to be meager goods and cause problems.
Hang on again. The people who floated the possibility of AI utopia are, to a first approximation, the same people who raised severe concerns about the risk of extinction or permanent disempowerment courtesy of the same. Who do you think came up with the whole paper-clip maximizer idea, or even the concept of a p(doom)?
More importantly, AI has the possibility of making us all obsolete. Elon Musk or Buffet too, in that their intellectual output becomes strictly redundant. The possess far more power, courtesy of owning stock in the companies working away at creating Machine Gods, but there's no qualitative difference here.
The better frame is to imagine some idly rich petrostate, where everyone, from king to sheikh to prole, all lives off the largesse of the land. None of the citizens need to work, because AI foreign workers do all the actual labor.
We have some degree of redistribution in most countries today, for people who for noble or ignoble reasons, can't work on the free market. Eventually, that will be everyone.
- I want a reactionary trad society to provide me with good immediate social superiors, socially and politically savvy men, whom I can rely on to protect my autistic craftsman interests in exchange for providing reliable service to them, in a quasi retainer-lord or relationship.
What would actually probably happen is my immediate social superiors blatanlty and short-sightedly exploiting me in a parallel to peasant-lord relationships, and me rediscovering why there were so many peasant uprisings and why feudalism couldn't compete.
MadMonzer
Temporarily embarrassed liberal elite
14hr ago
If you do have a 95% case, you can get insurance against the risk of having to pay the other side's costs. (If your lawyer is taking the case on contingency, he has skin in the game and the insurance underwriter can see this.) This was a fairly standard part of English personal injury litigation until the rules were changed to make it unnecessary.
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
14hr ago
I watched Tokyo Godfathers recently at the suggestion of my wife, and found it quite decent. Absolutely watchable. A rarity among movies in general and anime especially.
Its creator is Satoshi Kon. Of all his works, there is one I would most recommend anyone should read: https://www.makikoitoh.com/journal/satoshi-kons-last-words
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
14hr ago
It is an imposition of government power to prevent an employer from firing an employee for their private speech, but not an authoritarian one. It is also an imposition of government power to prevent an employer from firing an employee for being the wrong race, and yet most of us would agree that is appropriate. It is worth it for the government to intervene and restrict freedoms if those restrictions create more freedoms as a result. In this case protecting the ability of people to speak and not be mindslaves to the megacorps (and the activists who cherry pick people to bring to their attention).
From my point of view it’s actually one thing I’d want the government to protect people from, simply because it’s been used — in some cases by the government itself— as a way to back door punish crime-think. It’s for all intents and purposes illegal to say things against homosexuality. Your boss is practically obligated to fire you for saying it, because if he doesn’t, it constitutes a “hostile workplace” that he can be sued for allowing to exist. And the law gives no out for a person to be left alone, because the mere presence of someone who has in any context engaged in crime-think online is creating that hostile work environment. And thus Internet scolds can root out anyone who posts crime think online and make them virtually unemployable, which in modern society makes their lives miserable. The government has learned to censor by using the private sector as its enforcement mechanism thus avoiding breaking the first amendment itself. Facebook or Twitter censors your online presence, not the government. Your boss fires you rather than tge government arresting you. It is still censorship, and most people unless they’re ideological, learn very quickly what sorts of opinions they must never say aloud.
Having a bit of protection where private employers cannot fire non public facing employees for personal opinions on private accounts posted on their own time would remove that chilling effect. It makes sense that I could be fired as a company representative for saying something “evil” online. My job is to represent that company. It also makes sense that if I’m posting from official accounts, the employer has a right to control what I post on those accounts or on internal chats/emails. Those represent official communications. Even posting during office hours might fall under use of company time. But if I’m posting to MY personal account on MY personal phone on MY personal time, it’s not his business. And I think it’s only reasonable that protecting the principle of free speech means that I should be able to say what I want to on my own time.
For the most part the only anime I watch are movies, rather than TV shows. The one exception was Paranoia Agent, which I adored (helps that it was created by a director, Satoshi Kon, whose cinematic work I'd previously loved - Perfect Blue which was the inspiration for Aronofsky's Black Swan, and Tokyo Godfathers which might be my favourite Christmas movie). A bizarre and blackly comic mashup of police procedural, psychological thriller, fantasy and social satire which I cannot recommend highly enough.
Botond173
14hr ago
"crime free neighborhoods" = helpless BIPOC languishing under the boot of a racist, murderous police
"public schools without enemy propaganda" = drag queens and honest LGBT activists and educators being barred from schools by homophobic, transphobic goons
"I just want to grill" = LGBT people and BIPOC suffering discrimination and oppression day and night while heartless normies don't give a crap
" I just want to be free to live my small traditional peasant life and raise my family among the same." = no tax money to be spent on muh programs and affirmative action
Yeah actually, thanks for asking.
I'm slowly getting into a groove, experimenting with Unreal, narrowing down what I'm doing wrong, and correcting it. Still not much to show for it. I refactor a lot to square what Unreal and C++ demand of Code with what I personally consider good code. This - wrangling code itself and seeing it evolve into better shapes with each iteration - I actually enjoy quite a bit. Which may be a bit of a breakthrough; the last months I had to force myself to get acquainted with Unreal, but now I'm at a point where I'm actually looking forward to spending more time on it. It's nowhere near the flow states I used to spend entire days in, but there's less mental resistance and the idea-to-product pipeline is becoming shorter.
Edit: I just realized that Unreal's coordinate system is
- X: Forward
- Y: Right
- Z: Upward
And dammit, why can't any two engines use the same? Tomorrow I need to go over my entire (modest) codebase and check every coordinate.
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
15hr ago
Okay, but what do we do with that? Where do we go from here? Shrug and move on to other topics?
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
15hr ago
That's fair, but besides the point. I won't quibble about the semantics. Call it whatever you like. It's not even necessarily that women behave in this way. What actually is central to my point is that by women's frequently stated (not necessarily revealed!) preferences and values, being a porn woman is actually perfectly normal.
At that point, I tried to illustrate how this state of affairs - porn women, whores, sluts, etc. being variably considered completely normal or abjectly dishonored - somewhat parallels how politicians are variably considered either specially honored members of the elite or the untrustworthy scum of the earth and enemies of the people, and somewhat sloppily tried to argue that if you side with the (relatively) positive view of whores and the negative view of politicians, then politics are hardly made worse by whores joining in.
The weather's probably part of the reason. At the moment, I'd probably go out into the street in only my underwear too if it was socially acceptable.
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