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That sucks. But if there's a human being you created with your actions (and you chose to put your dick in her), I absolutely despise anyone who'd refuse to take responsibility for that and leave the child you created to poverty and probably being brought up in the same life, no matter how much you despise the mother.
I don't actually view the father as being hugely responsible for the creation of the child in this circumstance. The child was created primarily via the mother's deception, and the father was operating under a situation of false information. In addition, in similar fashion to another user in the thread, I don't have a high opinion of the inherent role of DNA in creating a link between child and father.
Finally, as I noted, this assignation of responsibility to the father creates a pretty horrendous incentive structure where baby-trapping is incentivised, since that system allows such women to benefit from it. The net result might in fact be more children born in such a dysfunctional situation and raised by fucked-up women, and that seems like a rather anti-utilitarian outcome one would want to discourage.
I think most people would find the idea that a woman who's had a child due to holes being poked in a condom should not be able to avail herself of safe haven abandonment or put the child up for adoption (for the ostensible benefit of the kid) pretty displeasing. Granted, she could've taken a morning after pill or birth control to mitigate her risk, but she relied on the biological father's representations. Though I will say that the argument for that prohibition is actually stronger given that the woman in question had options like abortion once she realised she was pregnant, and thus actually had to decline to take steps to terminate the pregnancy before a child was produced.
Of course, safe haven abandonment, adoption etc is allowed for women due to their default custody of out-of-wedlock children, even in situations where the woman in question was being exceptionally irresponsible, whereas legal paternal surrender is not often considered legally or socially permissible even under circumstances of coercion or misrepresentation.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
1d ago
He's got fuck-you money, I've got a 9-5 and writing as a hobby. He's doing it better. At this point, he definitely can be indulged if he wants to flame out and make his own Megalopolis, Avatar had mass appeal.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
1d ago
I was talking about not despising them for being in the sex trade.
As for supporting a child you created, it's not about the woman who baby-trapped you. That sucks. But if there's a human being you created with your actions (and you chose to put your dick in her), I absolutely despise anyone who'd refuse to take responsibility for that and leave the child you created to poverty and probably being brought up in the same life, no matter how much you despise the mother.
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
1d ago
I will say this much - any suggestion for alternate societies that curtails productivity by banning useful tools will not be the one that is ultimately implemented and sustained. I think you can see quite obviously why rolling back the industrial revolution won't happen, and by the same token I claim that any further such "revolutions", be they carried by AI or by other means, will absolutely happen whether we like it or not, and we will adapt to any further alienation as well as we can because we must.
I'm not saying this is desirable, or that we will be happier for it. Very likely neither. I'm saying it's inevitable, in the long run.
ControlsFreak
2d ago
The average man on the street
...is wrong about Constitutional stuff all the time.
it's basically like a navy or an army
...uh, which one? The Constitution gives different rules for them, so which set of rules apply?
Corporations develop them but states manage them. States don't like human cloning, it's banned. States want to keep nuclear technology secret, it's secret. The EU decides that we need to click through pop-ups about cookies, millions of man-hours are wasted... The US allocates GPU access around the world, there are tiers of who can and who cannot have them.
This doesn't sound like "management". It sounds like States ban stuff.
I think this is confusing what it means to be a Classical Liberal.
If there are problems with implementing and sustaining an ideology (and there are problems with all ideologies), surely that's relevant in discussing its merits?
Sure... but I think you've just mistaken what it is in starting this analysis.
ControlsFreak
2d ago
There is significant interpretive difference between individual rights recognized in the Bill of Rights, due to the background of natural/retained rights tradition, as compared to enumerated, limited powers of government. In fact, much jurisprudence actually roots rights WRT television in the free speech clause. Whether or not that is accurate, and whether there should be more of a revival of the free press clause, is above my pay grade (though I have thoughts). But the entire interpretive framework is significantly different from the first step.
Now please answer the actual question? We have specific rules (that are different) for Armies and Navies. Which set of rules applies to the Air Force?
A proposed amendment could even use more generic language
How would that work? Remember, your idea doesn't go by wording
Hold up. The words you choose for your Constitution do matter.
if the air force were called a Flying Navy that wouldn't make a difference.
This is an after-the-fact naming convention, trying to shoehorn something into the Constitution that isn't there. You can just use different, possibly more general, wording in your Constitution. How general you actually choose to be is a difficult question, but you can obviously do it.
Let me see if I understand your logic. You're telling him to knowingly and intentionally abandon a woman and his potential child, and the proof that he's a better person is that he'll feel a little bad about it afterward? That's not character growth - that's learning how to rationalize being a selfish coward. Bah was considering sacrificing his entire life to do what he thinks is right. You don't even care if it's a scam or not you're telling him to sacrifice his integrity to protect his comfort, and then pat himself on the back for it!
The ironic part is that he would only be a douchebag if he followed your advice. You act as though he treated her like a third world pump and dump, but he is in love with her! He met her family, spent his time with her, sent her money for an abortion - because he's smitten. And you tell him, assuming it's real, that instead of taking personal responsibility for his actions, he should run and leave his own kid being raised by a sex worker in the third world? And for little more than the negative opinions of others? And then cap it off with a rant about how she needs to take responsibility for her actions?
I might think Bah is a naive lovefool, but I at least admire his commitment to his responsibilities, scam or not. I think you are a douchebag.
Edit - Bah replied while I was writing this saying he isn't in love with her and the problem is solved, but since your advice assumed he was too, I'll leave this comment as is.
orthoxerox
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2d ago
Have you ever made useful things with your own hands? Or ran your own small business?
There's a blog I read that posts interviews with small and medium business owners: how they started out, what their challenges were and are, what their business model looks like. There's a common theme running through all of them: they could all earn more working for hire, but instead they stubbornly cling to their businesses. "It's good to be your own boss, no one will block you from working overtime or skipping vacation" is the typical joke.
My assumption is that they all are especially sensitive to alienation.
mrvanillasky
Indo Aryan Thot Leader
2d ago
Green, the chicken took a while to cook. I bought red paste, will try it this weekend.
madeofmeat
2d ago
Think about living in a small village community where you're a skilled artisan of some sort. You feel confident in your work which you do autonomously under your own judgment, get pleasure from your mastery of it, and can immediately see how the results of your work benefit yourself and those around you. You're a known and valued member of your community and you have deep and long-lasting personal and professional ties to those around you. Alienation is the opposite of that.
BahRamYou
2d ago
and consider why she'd be sending you proof that she aborted?
because she's not an idiot, she's also aware of how scammy this seems but she still felt it important to tell me.
Anyway yeah, problem solved I guess. I like this woman but I'm not at all in love with her like how the people here seem to think, just trying to avoid being a total scumbag. But it seems to have all worked out so... hooray!
Corvos
2d ago
A statistically even worse method of birth control. Recommending this is 100% colored by ideological bias.
You are conflating two things:
- Not having sex is a 100% effective way of not having children.
- Telling your kids not to have sex has much lower efficacy, modulo the personality of the kid and the relationship with the parents.
Most of the suggesters likely have confidence in the method (as they should) and in their kids (rightly or wrongly) and therefore suggest this method.
MadMonzer
Pedo! Pedo! Pedo! Out! Out! Out!
2d ago
Slavery was universal in the ancient world, and in some form (state slavery, chattel slavery, serfdom/peonage) right up until shortly after the Industrial Revolution.
Chattel slavery was illegal in Christian Europe by the High Middle Ages. (This ban never extended to overseas possessions). Serfdom was abolished in the vast majority of France by 1318, and de facto in England by 1500. Serfdom also appears to be the exception rather than the rule in Northern Italy.
Western Europe produces a distinctive civilisation long before that civilisation industrialises.
Why are you assuming that he 've had a uniquely bad experience? I'm not from the US but to me what he's describing seem to be the usual consequences of Mexican or Central American underclass immigrants forming criminal gangs in a town/city where their numbers reach a critical mass. I don't assume that is a unique development, especially not in Virginia which probably attracts a disproportionate number of immigrants due to the vicinity of the Beltway region.
CertainlyWorse
No one is coming. It's just you.
2d ago
I wonder what this means for men in their social experiences with other men.
Does it mean that with a flatter curve you don't know what sort of personality you're going to bump into? While women bump into 'another basic bae'?
MadMonzer
Pedo! Pedo! Pedo! Out! Out! Out!
2d ago
In particular, a positive balance of trade requires negative net foreign investment in the United States by accounting identity. Trump continues to encourage foreign investment in the United States, and to discourage foreign investment by American companies.
TowardsPanna
2d ago
I have no idea why I added the word "major" to country. I was just trying to ask about the differences between anonymized large data sets, and smaller but far more specific data sets.
I guess I'm trying to find out... how open to abuse is this system - is it simple for a somewhat resourced person or group to just set up a company and acquire sensitive data on business rivals or personal enemies or whatever else.
MadMonzer
Pedo! Pedo! Pedo! Out! Out! Out!
2d ago
A lot of monetary policy thinking starts with MV=PY which is an accounting identity.
For non-economists - M is the total quantity of money in the economy, V is the number of times each dollar is spent in a year, P is the price level, and Y is real GDP. So we say that the total amount of money spent is equal to nominal GDP. A lot of monetarist and monetarist-adjacent macroeconomics is arguing about which elements in this accounting identity are causes and which ones are consequences.
orthoxerox
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2d ago
Green, yellow or red?
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
2d ago
As always, The Worm Ourobouros.
Also, The Sea-Wolf.
And I notice some parallels between the two. An effortpost - as effortful as I can make it, anyways - is in the works.
TowardsPanna
2d ago
Why have you shaped your objection into one reddit-esque snark? The post would be more informative if you elaborated a bit more on each point instead.
orthoxerox
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2d ago
I think it has daily challenges, like Wordle
Botond173
2d ago
Franco, like Emperor Franz Joseph, committed the grace political mistake of living too long.
Botond173
2d ago
What I saw of Vinland Saga suggested a show that takes historical setting seriously while using it to explore themes about violence, revenge, and the possibility of redemption.
It should be noted though that the title is rather misleading as the plot of season 1 has nothing to do with Vinland at all.
Jeez, straight online dating must be soul crushing, I had a roomate in college who would just send a dick pic and have instantly like 5 guys climbing over eachother to try and get in his pants. He had different dudes with him every other week.
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