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I haven't really used 5 yet so don't have an opinion. But broadly I agree with this Reddit post that AI soft skills are being steadily downgraded in favour of easily-benchmarkeable and sellable coding and mathematics skills.
When I was using 4o something interesting happened. I found myself having conversations that helped me unpack decisions and override my unhelpful thought patterns and things like reflecting on how I’d been operating under pressure. And I’m not talking about emotional venting I mean it was actual strategic self-reflection that actually improved how I was thinking. I had prompted 4o to be my strategic co-partner, objective, insight driven and systems thinking - for me (both at work and personal life) and it really delivered.
And it wasn’t because 4o was “friendly.” It was because it was contextually intelligent. It could track how I think. It remembered tone recurring ideas, and patterns over time. It built continuity into what I was discussing and asking. It felt less like a chatbot and more like a second brain that actually got how I work and that could co-strategise with me.
Then I tried 5. Yeah it might be stronger on benchmarks but it was colder and more detached and didn’t hold context across interactions in a meaningful way. It felt like a very capable but bland assistant with a scripted personality. Which is fine for dry short tasks but not fine for real thinking. The type I want to do both in my work (complex policy systems) and personally, to work on things I can improve for myself.
That’s why this debate feels so frustrating to watch. People keep mocking anyone who liked 4o as being needy or lonely or having “parasocial” issues. When the actual truth is lot of people just think better when the tool they’re using reflects their actual thought process. That’s what 4o did so well.
The bigger picture thing I think that keeps getting missed is that this isn’t just about personal preference. It’s literally about a philosophical fork in the road
Do we want AI to evolve in a way that’s emotionally intelligent and context-aware and able to think with us?
Or do we want AI to be powerful but sterile, and treat relational intelligence as a gimmick?
I think that the shift is happening for various reasons:
- Hard (maths, science, logic) training data is easier to produce and easier to quality-control.
- People broadly agree on how many watts a lightbulb produces, but they disagree considerably on how conversations should work ('glazing' vs 'emotional intelligence')
- Sycopancy has become a meme and companies may be overcompensating
- AI is being developed by autists and mathematicians who feel much more confident about training AI to be a better scientist than a better conversational partner
- AI company employees are disproportionately believers in self-reinforcing AGI and ASI and are interesting in bringing that about via better programming skills
EDIT: the other lesson is 'for the love of God use a transparent API so people have confidence in your product and don't start double-guessing you all the time'.
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
4hr ago
Great Russian Short Stories. The Overcoat was good. After I finish it, I plan to read Always With Honor. I guess I'm on a Russia kick.
jkf
4hr ago
It's pretty much a given that somebody is going to have to deal with each and every one of our corpses at one point, unless (maybe) we get buried in an avalanche and churned into a glacier while on some sort of Hock submarine ride expedition; even then, you can't really say whether somebody might come across your mummified corpse 30,000 years from now.
It doesn't strike me as obvious that paying a Swiss person to murder you and deal with your corpse afterwards is less harmful than a paramedic finding you poisoned in the tub or something -- in fact the sterility of it all is a big part of the problem for me.
erwgv3g34
4hr ago
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
4hr ago
I just want to put on my grumpy old man hat and say I really hate that the term "glazing" is becoming more common. From what I understand it's supposed to refer to the shiny "glazed" appearance of something/someone after it has been ejaculated on. Just a gross mental image, and truly a sign of our sad, porn-brained times. I suppose this is how my parents felt hearing "this sucks/blows" and why they hated it. Ah well, back to shaking my fist at the clouds.
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
4hr ago
Welcome! China is often discussed here, but only "from afar," as there seem to be very few people who have visited, and even fewer who can speak the language or have a more than superficial understanding of the current culture. I hope to see you post here frequently to weigh in on these discussions!
RoyGBivensAction
Zensunni Scientologist
4hr ago
It's remarkable how nauseated I can feel when reading him (and I'm not referring to the ultraviolence bits).
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
4hr ago
I suppose I don't see much difference between waxing poetic about abstract alleged cucks even though some might be listening, and addressing someone in that manner directly.
Eupraxia
Of all words spoken, all things read / most true was that which went unsaid
4hr ago
This is true, but it begs the question. Yes, men and women have different foibles, but how do they compare? How do the standards for men compare against the standards for women?
As WhiningCoil expresses above, the redpill perspective on women essentially considers them as men's lessers, baser creatures driven primarily by instinct. This is a perspective with strong cultural precedent, and its echoes persist to this day, even in aspirationally egalitarian societies. When feminists keep talking about wanting men and women to be equal, despite their equality before the law and the outright preference shown towards women by our cultural institutions, this is what they mean.
In this way, I'm sympathetic to both feminism and the redpill perspective; I do believe that women are to some extent more childish, instinctual, etc. than men, but I also think that this is a highly unfortunate reality, not something to celebrate or appreciate, and hopefully might be ameliorated by whatever means necessary, social or biological.
Pair bonding is not a thing for guys.
I often doubt if I have anything of value to his not subreddit except anecdotes, but, hey, I believe I have a worthwhile anecdote.
"Pair bonding is not a thing for guys" is one of the takes that just too alien to any and all life experience that I had. Majority of males that I know clearly had have a pair-bonding going on. Everyone I know of who I have had the opportunity to observe closely enough (mostly, extended family) and had a serious long-term relationship and the relationship ended were evidently emotionally confused and miserable for quite some time afterwards. No everyone was dramatically devastated, but given the aftereffects after the bond broke, it is simply implausible to argue the guy had not emotionally pair-bonded, unless the words are twisted beyond their meaning.
I have fallen romantically in love exactly enough times to recognize that yes, I am capable of pair bonding.
Sure, I guess there are guys who don't pair-bond. I hear about them and I sort-of know of such people, but not very well, never got to know them. Wouldn't be surprised they are over represented in redpill. Perhaps it is one of those correlations where "like attracts like", or maybe it is actively causal, enough of PUA kills one part of the male mind which is capable of romantic notions. Am not surprised at all they are underrepresented in a convenience sample of "middle aged men who had a family and/or widowed pensioners (and relatives with offspring who could observe them)", PUA doesn't seem big on family-formation.
It's qualitatively different than stereotypical female-coded pair-bonding, true. It does not follow immediately from sex act. I suspect without traditional Western cultural constraints, many men could imagine themselves with a wife and a long-term mistress or two, with romantic pair-bond going on in different stages, and some concubines without any real feeling. Yet, the reality is that the WEIRD Western liberal city-dwelling places have officially dismissed the traditional Western cultural constraints and embraced non-monogamy ex cathedra,but I am not be surprised either that surprisingly few men are capable of acting on such fantasies, in particular if the guy has ancestry from the European part behind the Hajnal line.
Sometimes I wonder if the received wisdom about stereotypical female pair-bonding is wrong, too. It certainly can't be any hard rule, there are far too many women who seem to be totally on board with the promiscuity project or becoming party who jumps ship and initiates actions that make the serial monogamy serial. Middle aged women seem to have as good or better chances of successfully bouncing back from their divorces.
Tree
4hr ago
Nah he's usually pretty friendly, with other men... It's only when you threaten to cut off his goolies while simultaneously confessing lower status that he becomes this aggressive.
urquan
Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?
4hr ago
Oh, yeah, I had the same experience a long time ago. It happens, I guess.
We really do need the bidet in the west. I have basically trained my digestive system to be almost perfectly regular, and I shower every time I have a bowel movement so I can keep things clean.
faceh
5hr ago
My general policy is to extend maximum charity and assume good faith until proven otherwise.
Funny enough, I used a similar principles when dating, and I get burned for it on occasion.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
5hr ago
Can you, uh, rely on the most miserable, desperate portion of the population to make optimal decisions? Optimal for the rest of us, that is. It’s not like they’re going to be around to clean up.
In the best case, that’s first responders removing a body. I think most cases are messier, more personal, or otherwise worse. They’re externalities to the suicide. Mitigating those is worth something.
incentivizing profits
Okay, but that’s a fully general argument against doing stuff. Plenty of companies are naturally incentivized towards collateral damage. We generally handle this by regulating them instead of banning their industry outright.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
5hr ago
Sloot talks like this all the time. If he felt particularly threatened or incensed by the castration comment, it did not show.
Tree
5hr ago
It sounded to me like you thought sloot's inflammatory tone came out of nowhere. But it was the equivalent of an inflammatory response by a woman to a 'misogynistic' policy someone here might propose.
phailyoor
5hr ago
That’s disgusting: scrolling on Instagram, watching TV shows, and having sex with various women. How does he meet these women and how does he seduce them? Just so I know how to avoid such a lifestyle.
Any app can be a dating app, Instagram included.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
5hr ago
This wasn't even anal sex. The aroma hit me during doggy :(
What's worse is that, like you said, the lady in question was far more of a freak about fastidious cleaning than I ever was.
4doorsmorewhores
5hr ago
How could you extrapolate from what you've seen (As a lawyer? As a politician? Have you ever worked in politics? Have you ever been to a legal society meeting?) to a country with a different legal and political culture? Why not just ask these politicians why they support what they do, they will probably just tell you. You can glean from interviews that he sees Israel as a strong military ally against a number of nearby statest that the USA is hostile towards. Why is that less convincing to you than a conspiracy theory?
phailyoor
5hr ago
The whole point of pursuing money and status through your career is to gain access to women. If you can cut out the middle man, why not? What's a job other than working 40 hours a week to make your bosses richer?
Actually, the point is to have the money to buy sports cars, rolexes, guns, night vision goggles, Japanese wagyu steaks, RTX graphics cards, etc. And no, there aint a bitch in the world who gives a single damn that you have those things. Those are boy toys.
And if you have game you can get laid all you want with hot women without any of those things. If you have the money for a normal apartment, Toyota Corolla, and decent clothes at the outlet mall, the rest is 100% on you having game. (Unless of course you're filthy filthy rich and don't mind gold diggers.)
Oof. Hm. Never tried anal sex and it's not my kind of thing, but I've never gotten the impression that the women I've seen would be exceptionally angry about it.
If anything, women I've dated have been more interested in sexual cleanliness than me, particularly for themselves. I'm not sure, "you stink" would be considered a wonderful thing to say, but I don't have any doubt that I could express what was going on and it would all be okay in the end, even if feelings were hurt in the moment.
Tree
5hr ago
Your justifications are all over the place and incoherent. They boil down to resentment. Lotharios don't need to lie to those women to sleep with them (what are they, proposing? In this day and age?). And obviously you don't castrate people for not being maximally productive. Nor for being too hot ('make standard dudes invisible').
If Sloot or anyone else wishes to object to the policy of castrating or killing "Lotharios", they are as free to make their case as those in favor. I think the ludicrous nature of such a policy is sufficiently evident that arguing against it is a waste of my time; others who judge differently are free to discuss as they will. We allow people to make foolish and even insane arguments here, because we are not interested in accepting responsibility for policing which ideas/positions/ideologies are good and which are not.
What we do not allow is commenters using their posts to directly attack each other, or wind each other up. It seems obvious to me that this is what @Sloot did, and doing so is a violation of several rules here.
It's also worth pointing out that the interpretation of the rules that I am applying here is the reason @Sloot has not himself been banned up to this point. He routinely makes comments that could be described as "petty" and "mean", as well as "advocating hardline policies". He usually does so from behind a level of abstraction similar to that employed by @thejdizzler above, which helps a great deal to keep him on the right side of the line.
What are some viable career paths in a small american city (~100,000)?
I have experience in tech (ops, presales) but I don't like the fact that I have to work a remote job. I'd like to be more integrated into the local community. I've thought of teaching (which I like) or doing some sort of IT work (big pay cut, probably pretty boring). I'm open to nearly any kind of white-collar work where I can transfer my skills. In my mid-30s I'm too old for an easy complete career reset.
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