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Pair bonding is not a thing for guys.

That’s… definitely not true. Just because you have never been in love before doesn’t mean other men haven’t.

Boats, nice cars etc can absolutely bring the ladies.

The other point of going to work is to have money, and potentially social status. People like the things money brings. As the old saw goes, a woman makes a house better- but it still beats a cardboard box under a bridge.

One possible solution I've been considering recently is forcibly marrying and then if that doesn't working, castrating these men. Of course I would like women to shape up too, but that seems like a tall ask.

I’ve been inwardly giggling at you and @faceh’s recent comments matter-of-factly talking about castrating or even executing “Lothario” men.

Like the state of affairs is so bleak, the cultural inertia too powerful to reverse, that such a practice is more realistic and further within the Overton window than marginally but directly limiting or inconveniencing the FUN or freedom of young women in some way to increase the protections afforded them.

Indeed. The wars of the sexes, and the resulting fertility collapse, have gotten so bad that people are willing to resort to literally anything to fix them: killing womanizers, paying women to birth orphans, anything at all...

...except the one thing that we know works, and that kept civilization running for the past 5,000 years. De-emancipate women? Never! Better to go extinct.

Uh, how common is gooning really?

Like regular masturbation, sure, real common. But I was under the impression gooning was some technologically driven different thing.

Under the logic that winning and losing can only be defined in relation to criteria and the criteria of being successful in life are subjective. Yes, even the criteria that have to deal with reproduction and Darwinism and so on. These are all parts of the same reptile brain that makes the simp happy with his lot.

If you want an explicit ruleset that would define the simp as being better than the player, then "don't waste time and effort on getting the approval of others when a simpler lifestyle will do just as well for physical needs" is one. If only hunger could be sated merely by rubbing the stomach.

I agree a whole pack at once might do it, but I don't expect that the whole pack would explode at once.

Location, word of mouth, I assume.

under what logic can the simp not be described as a loser?

The whole point of pursuing money and status through your career is to gain access to women. If you can cut out the middleman, why not? What's a job other than working 40 hours a week to make your bosses richer?

So why do straight women and gay men have careers then?

Well there's an old face! Thanks, I appreciate it. Plenty of views but I can't tell if anyone's actually reading or if I'm just getting scraped by bots.

No one's had much to say yet, but I bet next week's chapter ruffles some feathers. Hope I can count on your readership.

These are intended as motte posts after all and some engagement would be nice. If I'd posted the above in the CW thread I imagine I'd have half a dozen people telling me I'm wrong by now.

The tipoff that these people know that what they are doing is not quite right (or at least that they are running against thousands of years of ongoing overwhelming consensus, and run a strong risk of hanging from a tree themselves if the public at large were to start paying attention)

The thing is, there's a vast gulf between your first phrase and your parenthetical. If they knew what they were doing is "not quite right", that would be damning. If all they actually know is that they're running against overwhelming and violent consensus, it is not.

From the logical intellectual perspective, the simp is a loser, only leaving the house to work and otherwise wasting away in his goon cave.

I'd argue assigning the loser label is pretty far from the logical intellectual perspective. It presupposes that male social status (as per the standard of being able and willing to date) is axiomatically good without explicitly stating that axiom.

FG gestured towards the numerous pride flags. I claimed to have interpreted them as generic contemporary decor. He then indicated the very large flag by the entrance, to which I could only plead a fundamental lack of situational awareness.

Given the proliferation in enemy areas of huge pride flags at the door of every imaginable type of establishment, the misunderstanding should be perfectly normal. In fact I now have to wonder how actual explicitly LGB establishments can now directly advertise themselves as such.

As a recovered simp, I can kind of comment

  1. Dating is an extreme act of delayed gratification. Many men do not really enjoy the act of seducing women, which requires enormous investments in time and effort, and generally putting on at least a little bit of act rather than just being comfy and normal. Many men enjoy the thrill and payoff of a successful seduction but that is different from the act itself.

  2. In irl seggs is good and all but with the latest gooning technology I would argue that hardcore gooning actually gives more seggsual stimulation than the real thing. As a result, the majority of single men do not actually have a lot of pent up sexual desire, because they are able to satisfy most of it with gooning. Incel types are different but their real problem is mental and not directly related to the physical act.

  3. The remaining hole in these single men is therefore almost entirely social and barely physical. That makes them extremely susceptible to parasocial forms of entertainment. For lazy men, there is soooo much parasocial content available at the tip of their fingers. For free, you can listen in realtime to a girl whisper in your ear for hours, play games, talk about various topics, and depending on how popular the influencer is, even humor your messages, also for free. For a trifling amount of money - one dollar or less - you can buy her time to real your name and message, though not necessarily buy a thoughtful response. And of course, the big one, is that depending on the person, you can cheaply buy a certain level of girlfriend experience, either explicitly or unspoken. DMs, good night messages, even voice calls are all on the table. And for small time creators, it would actually be them, not paid chatters like is popular on OF.

For the content creator, it's pretty scalable, as it's relatively easy to simply manage chatting with a bunch of paypigs a few times a week to keep them on the hook. Creating the content to get them interested in the first place is relatively the harder part. For someone who enjoys creating the content, and doesn't mind listening to stinky old men ramble about whatever nonsense, it's actually quite an ideal gig.

For the simp stuck in the trap, it's extremely hard to get out. He already has gooning to satisfy physical needs, and one or several 20s women with perfect voices and decent intellect talking to him and giving him all the internet attention he needs. Even if he did want to go on dates, which he doesn't, he would likely be disappointed and disgusted by the women he meets. And don't forget that he's the one expected to do the seducing, which is something that he egirls don't need. From the logical intellectual perspective, the simp is a loser, only leaving the house to work and otherwise wasting away in his goon cave. But to the simp's reptile brain, he is living the ideal life, with constant seggsual stimulation and female attention.

That's what I thought too. I guess I'm not degen enough.

Not quite: it’s in reference to the spit-shined appearance of a well-fellated penis, similar to a glazed donut.

We really do need the bidet in the west.

Boy do I have some news for you! Hooks up to your existing water line so all it needs is a nearby outlet and you're good to go. Utterly life changing and I have no idea how folks endure the barbarity of making do with the standard bogroll.

Amen. The core of RP ideology is that there are strong, gender-specific trends in what women like that you can change about yourself in order to be more successful dating: all women are like that is an overstatement, but its cousin "most women are like that" is spot-on.

Growing up, I took all of the mainstream advice to heart, which aligned with my natural instincts anyway: just treat women like people, as if they were a friend you liked a lot and that you'd like to become a best friend you have sex with. This, surprise surprise, led to complete failure before picking up lite red pill tactics (much too late in my 20s, alas).

So long as men like relationships and sex, they will work to understand what factors lead to relationships and sex. And so long as all women are like that, men will notice that and deploy strategies to navigate that.

Not my ideal world, but short of a commitment to lifelong celibacy, there's not much I could do about it. The ball's in women's court.

Me to, or ceramic glaze.

I haven't been following the issue but haven't there been a bunch of cases of it going off in the holster, some of which were caught on camera? A quick search finds this CBS video from 9 months ago that includes footage of a few cases, it's not just the Air Force one from a few weeks ago. Now, maybe the media coverage is misleading and all of those have an explanation that exonerates SIG, but without addressing those prior cases it is hardly "taking refutation of their stance as proof that they are actually right" for people to continue believing there is a problem.

Hm, I always thought “glazed” had to do with adding sugar to a donut or other pastry. So an AI “glazing” someone is pouring sugar on top of something that’s already sweet.

I’m familiar with the other meaning, but I thought it was a derivation.

I saw folks on Twitter complaining that, on medical questions, the new model continues to emphatically repeat the most likely answer according to the current consensus, while the old one was more willing to thoroughly explore the possibility space. Seems related.

At Pegasos we philosophically believe that no one should be prevented from a VAD with us

The tipoff that these people know that what they are doing is not quite right (or at least that they are running against thousands of years of ongoing overwhelming consensus, and run a strong risk of hanging from a tree themselves if the public at large were to start paying attention) is that they will never call a spade a spade -- "VAD", "MAID", whatever other cutesy acronyms they might generate, the fact is it's suicide (at best) -- why not call it that?

I was thinking sugar-coated, like a doughnut, or shiny like a glazed window.