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Just to make a general observation about the gender war as a followup to my comment on the Promise Keepers organization:
I think we can generally observe is that women’s main complaint about men is that desirable hetero men are unwilling to exclusively commit. If we accept this, we can also see that this is actually two complaints rolled into one. 1. The men that are willing to commit are undesirable (icky, clingy, lame, “chopped”, entitled, toxic, porn-addled, skinny fat etc.). 2. The men that are desirable are unwilling to commit. (On a tangent I’d argue that most of the lipstick feminist complaints made in the mainstream media by middle-class women about men in general do usually boil down to the rather similar complaint that 34-37-year-old successful, well-paid, charismatic, tall, ambitious etc. urban men are in no rush to marry 31-34-year-old college-educated middle-class office worker women.)
If we look at this logically, to the extent that it even makes sense to try doing so (which is a valid question in itself), there are two potential remedies for this problem. 1. Focus on the undesirable men that are willing to commit and somehow transform them into desirable men i.e. alphaize the betas 2. Focus on the desirable men and incentivize them to commit i.e. betaize the alphas.
Now I don’t know about you but to me it seems self-evident that #2 has more potential for success no matter how you look at it and yet virtually everyone who makes any sort of recommendations regarding this entire issue (and that does not only include Red Pillers) is promoting #1. No, really – I’ve never seen anyone advocate for #2, not even the Promise Keepers or, for that matter, any other similar group that does not claim to be feminist and is at the same time pushing the nebulous concept of a new positive masculinity.
Am I seeing things that are not there or is this really not the case? Because as far as I can tell, it is. It seems like there is a general unspoken consensus in society that trying to compel sexually successful men to commit to women is a completely impossible, pie-in-the-sky idea that deserves no attention at all; that, in other words, expecting modern women to elicit commitment from the men they are attracted to is laughable lunacy.
I think you're mistaking the advertising for the substance. From my dim memories of PK, it was a lot of complementarian christian feminism packaged in terms like "being a prayer warrior". A lot of "You need to be the leader of your household (by taking your wife's advice on everything)". There was absolutely nothing there about how to game single women, keeping wives in line, excelling in competitive endeavors etc. Nothing of what you're talking about. It was much more #2 than #1.
Furthermore, the whole "alpha/beta" thing is a useful shorthand perhaps, but not super descriptive of the phenomena we're talking about. You can't make large numbers of men "alpha" because it is an inherently zero-sum competitive thing. Those who claim to teach this are selling snake oil. There can be only one in any given room or situation. If we're talking how to appeal to women, the answer is contextual respect. You just need to achieve something respectable, and be a leader in a context that tickles a particular woman.
Of course, lots of men have contextual dominance of a field that reduces their appeal to most women. Being top DPS on your MMO raiding guild is competitive and zero-sum, but unlikely to attract many girls (though not zero). Being the least gay dude in a community theater is easier and better odds. The most sexually successful men I know are a pastor, a bartender/part owner of the bar, and a guy who organizes community bike rides. When you understand why this is, you understand contextual dominance.
Every guild has a female tauren druid who ends up getting involved with the GM...
"a" being the keyword. As in, just one. Whereas being the top sportsball player or rockstar can get you swarms of girls fighting over you.
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In mine, it was a shaman, and she cucked the old GM with the new GM.
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