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How about a different kind of AI culture war? I speak of course of non-consensual pornography generation. The most outrageous article I read about this recently was probably this AP article: Boys at her school shared AI-generated, nude images of her. After a fight, she was the one expelled. The girl in question is 13 and she started a fight on a school bus with one of the boys later charged with a crime for sharing the images.
It turns out that finding apps that advertise this kind of functionality is not hard. In fact, part of the reason I bring this up is it seems this capability is integrated into one of the largest AIs: Grok. There's been some controversy on X over the last couple days after Grok allegedly generated pornographic images of a couple minor girls. Additionally the bot's "media" tab was disabled, allegedly due to the discovery lots of people were using the bot to make pornographic edits of other people's pictures. Though the media tab is gone I did not find it very hard to get Grok to link me its own posts with these kinds of edits.
There is, I think understandably, a lot of controversy going around about this. It's not that it was previously impossible to make this kind of content but the fidelity and availability was much more limited and certainly required more technical skill. Being something you can do without even leaving your favorite social media app seems like something of a game changer.
Frankly I am unsure where to go with this as a policy matter. Should someone be liable for this? Criminal or civil? Who? Just the generating user? The tool that does the generating? As a general matter I have some intuitions about AI conduct being tortious but difficulty locating who should be liable.
If someone did this to my daughter I'd slap the shit out of them. I'd also be proud of my daughter for taking the matter into her own hands and beating the shit out of them.
Conversely, if my son did this I would hope he'd get his ass kicked by the girl and if her father came looking for him I would say I understand bro have at him just don't send him to the hospital.
I think I'm expressing majority feelings about this. Surely we can form rules around this accordingly.
Yeah its a pretty agreeable resolution to use short, sharp corporal punishment as a deterrent for antisocial behavior.
Good luck getting anyone to agree about what to do with your daughter if she were to start sending actual nudes around the school to a bunch of guys, though.
Bravado tends to fail, there.
The Western agreement would be to track down and punish the guys if they did anything other than preemptively deleting the nudes before they hit their phones.
Western men are generally unable or unwilling to thot-patrol their daughters, but sometimes they’ll try to get the state to ruin the lives of random guys who neglected to help maintain their daughters’ Wonderfulness.
Thanks, Sloot, for defending the rights of paedophiles everywhere to mock up nudes of underage girls because hey, it's the bitch's fault for letting herself be photographed in the first place, if she knew her place and didn't let her face be photographed then it would never have happened.
The girl took action to defend her reputation and got punished for it. How is that an example of Wonderfulness?
Doesn't look like I talk about pedophiles (or even ephebophiles) in the comment you were responding to or elsewhere in the thread. My comment quotes what it was responding to, which itself in turn doesn't depend on the event in the OP.
It does, however, look like you were throwing in discussion of pedophiles as an attempt to poison the well, and used "Wonderfulness" as a self-prompt to launch into a mini-rant.
To the extent it makes snide middle-aged internet women seethe, perhaps going forward I can find it in my heart to be a better ally for the freedom and protections of marginalized and vulnerable communities such as cis-het Minor Attracted Persons. You're welcome!
Men who find they need to use terms like Wonderfulness strike me as failures. It's licking their wounds. It's shifting blame for their inability to navigate adult life onto handy targets "Boo! Wonderfulness! Women are all bitches!"
That you even think "middle-aged" is a put-down shows your immaturity.
(We can swap insults all day if you want and the mods will tolerate it, or we can try to speak without using brain-dead Internet swipes. Your choice).
No, we won't. You and @Sloot both need to knock it off.
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Always amusing to see online women reinforce the trope of women resorting to personal attacks against a man’s status when he expresses an opinion she doesn’t like.
“Middle-aged” is not more of an insult there than “women” (or “internet” for that matter), but I see that description appears to have established residency in your head free of rent. The word I was actually most directionally on-the-fence about cutting was “snide,” but after half a thought I decided it indeed was applicable given your behavior in this thread and in general.
If I wished to try to insult you, off the top of my head there could have been the low hanging fruit of deploying impolite synonyms for “poor” and “overweight”—or, more softly, those words in themselves—for poor and overweight are descriptions of which you’ve recounted yourself (perhaps using those exact words, so they may not actually be insults at all). Even to a habitual wrong-thinker like me, it’d feel kind of like punching down just by mentioning without using-as-insult.
You have also expressed dissatisfaction with your career pathway (or lack thereof) and life outcomes in general.
I’m aware that you have time all day for riling yourself up and insulting other forum users, as well as rage-quitting and starting a new account when things don’t go your way.
Just your current account’s posting history is a Top Right Messi when it comes to number of comments on the x-axis and frequency of tantrums as a percentage of comments on the y-axis.
So yeah, when forum poster A tries to malign forum poster B for things such as “failures,” “immaturity”, “shifting blame,” “inability to navigate adult life,” it comes across as a massive case of projection and lack of self-awareness when forum poster A is older; poor; overweight; prone to histrionic, antagonistic outbursts, etc. when she sees a comment she doesn’t like.
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