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I'm sorry, can we just cut the bullshit? The US kidnaps the leader of Venezuela and then forbids them from shipping oil to Cuba. Then it strongarms Mexico into stopping oil shipments to Cuba. No matter how you try to rationalize this, it is certainly not more normal than Iran's restrictions on the Strait.
Iran is fighting an asymmetric war for its survival. The only two possibilities were ever immediate surrender or blockading the Strait. Most likely the Friday timing of the attack on Iran was intended to wrap up the war before the markets even opened by Monday in the best case scenario. But I find it hard to tolerate people complaining about Iran acting in a way that's unprecedented or unpredictable, when it's neither of those things. If Iran wants to survive, blockading the Strait and threatening regional infrastructure are things it must do. And no I do not like it, which is why I was strongly opposed to this war and want it to end.
All of this was extremely predictable. The question people should be asking is not why Iran is doing what it is doing, but why we were led here by our own leaders walking directly into extremely predictable consequences. There is no good answer for that.
It took me a moment to find the article, but the Americans have no formal oil embargo on Cuba from Venezuela.
It's not a rationalization: it's an objective fact, and you are the one who is full of shit. You're a third worldist who is upset that a communist nation is not getting free gibs. The fact the Cuban economy cannot afford oil imports at market rates is a result of their mismanagement, corruption, and incompetence. Mexico can quite easily sell to Venezuela at below-market rates. Why don't they?
Is because, I don't know, they want to make money, and not give away gibs?
@SecureSignals is many things, but "third worldist," probably not. To figure out why he cares about Cuba and what his position is, you need to ask how Jews are involved.
That said, namecalling and telling people they are full of shit is over the line.
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Cuban hyper-agency! Do you think that US sanctions played any role in this state of affairs?
As nice as it would be, the United States is not actually capable of trashing an economy by withholding trade. There are other countries out there that Cuba can trade with. If they had a system that worked, they could have enough funds to buy gas. Cutting off trade obviously isn’t great for their economy, but if they managed their country well it would just be a drag on growth.
Are you aware of how the sanctions actually work? Other countries who trade with Cuba also get penalised for violating the blockade. They've actually done remarkably well given their conditions, and even train enough doctors that they send them abroad to assist in natural disasters etc.
I'm not aware of how the sanctions work. Please tell me what penalties has the US imposed on China over the years for trading with Cuba? Similarly, what penalties has the US imposed on Mexico for trading with Cuba?
Also, what does the word "blockade" mean to you? Are you claiming that the US physically prevents ships from calling on Cuban ports?
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Well and the fact the world's hegemon makes "wouldn't it be a shame if someone kneecapped your economy with tariffs if you sold oil to Cuba" noises whenever someone (Mexico) considers selling oil to Cuba at market rates.
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https://amp.dw.com/en/cuba-hit-by-island-wide-blackout-amid-trump-oil-blockade/a-76385816
There is no Venezuelan oil going to Cuba; Mexico is being threatened with tariffs for sending oil to Cuba; Cuba has not received any oil in three months. The article you’re posting is talking about a hypothetical deal to be reached in the future with Cuba. No such deal has been enacted.
None of those things amount to a blockade, though. If any country really wanted to send oil to Cuba, they can do so.
Really? Kidnapping a president and threatening to wreck shows the US is willing to go pretty far to stop countries giving Cuba oil.
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And risk US sanctions and tariffs? Not very likely.
Weird, it's almost like the US govt is using its array of hard and soft power to stop oil from arriving in Cuba. If only there was a word for that...
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Iran doesn't have a formal oil embargo on the Strait either! You can cross, good luck getting insured, might want to reconsider it unless you pay IRGC $2 mil. But no formal oil embargo, for all that's worth.
The two situations could not be more different. Iran is a bridge troll while Cuba is an welfare case.
Since you've slipped my Cuba argument, I'm going to assume that you've conceded the point.
But the US still won't let people give oil to Cuba. Does it really matter they didn't buy it? The US was willing to kidnap a head of state to stop them giving oil to Cuba and put a huge amount of pressure in Mexico to stop them giving them oil. Cuba has plenty of friendly countries willing to give them oil and the US is doing everything possible including military action to stop that.
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I'm just curious, do you admit the US government is consciously straining the Cuban oil supply in order to put political pressure on their regime? Or do you seriously think it's about curbing welfare fraud?
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