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gattsuru
8m ago
In fact I now have to wonder how actual explicitly LGB establishments can now directly advertise themselves as such.
Internet.
There's some flaming bars that will literally have rainbows draped from every awning and at every curtain, every wall bright pink, but especially these days there's a lot of very boring-looking bars that will have a surprisingly deep event lists. (And, albeit more rarely, some flame-on looking bars that'll have an event list that looks like an Applebee's.)
Goodguy
34m ago
Fair enough. For me it was 100% jealousy, but you and I are different.
I don't think that the Lotharios are actually a major problem preventing you or I from finding women to pair-bond with.
Goodguy
43m ago
I'm not much into mistake theory, but what does annoy me about the "enemy areas" phrase is the consensus-building. @phailyoor's enemies are not the same as my enemies. I'd be fine with it if he wrote "Given the proliferation in areas controlled by my enemies,...".
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
46m ago
hydroacetylene
48m ago
My question was about prevalence. Yes, any 14 year old has probably figured out regular masturbation but I thought gooning was something different.
birb_cromble
53m ago
So far, every investigation that I have seen has resulted in one of two root causes:
- Operator pulled trigger
- Foreign object in trigger guard.
At this point, I can't rule out a mechanical problem causing uncommanded discharges, or if it's a bad design that encouraged operator error.
From what I've seen, think it's far more likely that the very wide trigger shoe and skinny trigger guard are making NDs too easy.
gattsuru
1hr ago
What is an honest straight man who is a zero on the Kinsey scale supposed to do?
Fair. If I had to come up with the no-gay-guy-would-wear-this setup, it'd probably involve an emphasis on frumpy and especially too-large clothing, but that's neither actionable nor useful advice for anyone in the real world.
FG framed it in a manner I've heard before: Back in the day, you're all but guaranteed to get it, unless you give up on the gay lifestyle altogether. Why not just get it out of the way?
Yeah, something like that, but eroticized as someone permanently taking you and making it impossible to go back. Not just for lifestyle-as-in-baths-and-chemsex, but even lifestyle-as-in-meeting-up-with-gays-for-parchessi: remember that it took until the late 1980s for official medical advice to say you couldn't transmit HIV by casual contact, and longer for a lot of people including gay guys to actually believe it.
He told me that he had met three potential partners who were HIV positive. I think he said two of them were on PrEP, and he might have slept with them. The other wasn't, and thus was rebuffed. I think this is what prompted the tirade about HIV and monkeypox. He said that man was being an idiot, and worsening general societal perception of the gays, as well as being a risk to their lifestyle.
There's been a long-standing presence of these sorta pragmatists, and while HIV gave them a lot more political capital (even when they were guessing), they've probably had more impact than my respectability politics side. I'm not sure how well the math works out in the long run, though.
I'm also confused about either the specific policies or a communication issue. My impression was that US medical advice is to actively test people for HIV first and never give PrEP to HIV positive people, and that the UK was similar. Are these people using PrEP as a byword for any oral anti-HIV medication, and they're really on ART (but then they're unusually medtechnical group, so that'd be a weird conflation)? Is FG assuming anyone without known HIV status is positive, and these guys are 'just' unknown status, so PrEP is more reasonable? Am I behind the curve on the literature, here? Am I ahead of the curve, and people giving out PrEP doing so in conditions that probably aren't helping?
I'm not too surprised by the existence of conservative or reactionary gay men. These guys seemed to be very liberal in outlook, they were friends with the trans bartender, so I guess they took the concept of LGBT solidarity more seriously!
Some of them are generally-conservative or reactionary, at least by local standards, but I've also seen it from older lefties who just have that topic as their exception, too, in the same way that a lot of TERFs are bog-standard feminists otherwise. But the solidarity arguments are still pretty strong for anyone that's seen a cis crossdresser called a fag, too, even if the actual policy proposals don't necessarily follow.
erwgv3g34
1hr ago
I remember when my hotel had a gay pride flag flying alongside the American flag and the state flag. Definitely made me feel worse about working there; it was like I was under enemy occupation.
Thankfully, it has since been replaced with a Canadian flag. Woke may not be dead, but it is surely in retreat.
aldomilyar
1hr ago
Yes and no.
I live in a 'demographic outpost of Singapore' suburb in the Klang Valley which is nice for that reason. Kuala Lumpur City Center is an outpost of oil money and is also pretty nice without being a demographic outpost of Singapore perse. Malaysia's rich enough and construction's cheap enough that the better areas are on par with what's available down South. The gap's closed in a lot of ways
Hieronymus
1hr ago
enemy areas
This is, on one level, my actual impression of many places. I live in a blue state, so casual pride flags happen. But once you get above a certain threshold of rainbow density in a nominally public place, it’s clear that there’s a dynamic of deliberate hostility to those of us with other convictions.
Still, I’d not open with that phrase on the Motte. Mistake theory is not altogether dead here, the way it usually is there.
Closeted men is perfectly valid, but bisexuals? That's not risk management, that's bigotry (pun intended?).
I think that can be the case if they're applying to everyone, but a lot of people who call themselves bi are like barely bi. Heck, a lot of people who call themselves bi are basically not bisexual at all outside of "shrugs, I'd do a guy/girl if I found them attractive I guess" types who also can't name a single same sex person they've ever found attractive. I imagine a lot of them are way less comfortable with sexuality and a lot more "boring" to sleep with.
But definitely going after a straight guy to see if he's down for a lay as well comes off as an odd contradiction here.
Popper-inhaling, incontinent, promiscuous people who go to bath houses and have sex in the corner of a bar where anybody can come in and have a drink, well, I have little defense of that beyond my general liberal principles.
Eh, I think a lot of that is just because it's two men involved and they tend to be a lot more openly sexual in general. Women complain all the time in a similar manner about straight guys, so it tracks that two guys together are gonna be pretty nuts.
phailyoor
1hr ago
My understanding is that the physical release is generally controlled by physical stimulation, while visual and fictional materials can provide a massive dopamine hit without it. This allows consooomers to easily consume more and more material without experiencing a sudden and messy end to the process.
I don't have any direct evidence but expect that regular users will tend towards longer and longer sessions as a result of Pavlovian conditioning.
urquan
Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?
1hr ago
phailyoor
1hr ago
They can act as a multiplier for someone who already has game but really isn't a method with high returns.
TitaniumButterfly
1hr ago
I end up a philosopher-king-monarchist because I don't think most people have an impulse to liberty.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
1hr ago
Do not use edits to argue with a banning. You may send us modmail if you want to plead your case, but normally post-ban edits like this are grounds for a permaban.
I concur with @FCfromSSC that regardless of how you "intended" it, this post was clearly a direct attack on @thejdizzler, and it did not strike me (nor him, apparently) as good-natured at all.
Quantumfreakonomics
1hr ago
I'm pretty sure the ejaculatory metaphor came first, and then the donut application became the SFW go-to because, uh... I think you can figure it out.
Quantumfreakonomics
1hr ago
I initially thought the move was a mistake, but it was a sizable quality-of-life improvement to not have to worry about the sub being banned every time I saw a particularly spicy comment.
Hieronymus
1hr ago
Yeah, I feel like epistemic uncertainty is still the right state. Some percentage of those accidental discharges will be negligent, but whether it’s 5% or 99% – who knows? And Sig’s P.R. team has not exactly earned a lot of trust here, either.
urquan
Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?
1hr ago
The thing that seems to be missing in your description of physical and social needs is essentially non-sexual/quasi-sexual physical touch. I could probably go without sex in life, but not being able to cuddle, or romantically kiss, or hold someone as they fall asleep, or just sit on the couch, or caress someone's back or arms... well, I'd find that hard to bear.
hydroacetylene
1hr ago
Welcome from China! Feel free to answer my questions or not:
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is pinyin/use of Chinese characters a culture war flashpoint? If so, how so?
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what’s the state of Chinese gender relations?
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is china’s education obsession driven by straightforward economic factors, or is it entirely cultural? What’s the delta between high skill blue collar and average white collar salaries?
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what’s the great firewall like in practice? Is it mostly focused on keeping news sources state approved? Or is it very block heavy? Obviously there’s some keywords(tianmen, June 4), are there some odd or unexpected ones? What’s the whispernet/samizdat situation like?
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does China see itself leading the world as hegemon, or is it more of a place of honor thing?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
1hr ago
If it worked, it would still persist. Clearly it does not work now. You go on and on with intellectual historical arguments in favor of de-emancipation, yet those are not enough because there is no more hard physical dependency of women on male physical labor. Inb4 "what if all male power plant workers quit": they won't. The dependency of society on strictly male labor has grown too abstract to leverage or to bellyfeel.
Given that civilization ran in the same ways for 5 thousand years, you should expect whatever broke the cycle to be a pretty fucking good reason to break it. You act like it was just a whim, a momentary lapse of men to free women and if they just Rise Up and Retvrn, the toothpaste can be put back in the tube.
I expect the societies that do not go full Amish to crush the ones that do before the latter can outbreed the former, or in spite of it. As to what happens to them later, maybe they will start killing womanizers or otherwise solve the equation of the sexes infavorably to men. No one said that personal physical strength and long distribution tails is going to be king forever. I do not expect the intellectual desire to not go extinct to be sufficient to revert all existing societies to Amish mode.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
To be completely fair, lots of societies have policed cads. It’s not some drastic never before tried policy.
I mean one big difference is the Swiss person is consenting to dealing with your body and is paid explicitly to do so.
You might argue the paramedic consents by virtue of their job, which is true, but their time is also finite and could be better spent on a QALY-basis helping alive people.
Also the person who finds you might be a family member, friend, or random innocent, none of whom contented to this or are paid to deal with it, which is just pure negative utility.
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