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WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
9hr ago
Yes, he said "Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head"
You really are committed to just ignoring all the rest that he said, huh? Just constantly repeating for the people who won't read for themselves this lie by omission that all he said was a joke.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
9hr ago
elected officials telling each other they’d commit murder if they had more balls
"Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head" this is literally a common joke used to humorously compare people to Hitler et al. It was incredibly inappropriate for someone running for public office to say, but otherwise is profoundly meaningless as far as calls for violence go.
I suppose this is a reason I feel so… uneasy with gun control.
I go back and forth on this a lot myself. I strongly believe gun control is needed to keep governments/institutions scared of the masses, but at the same time the masses end up rather dangerous to one another in the interim.
themig
9hr ago
What on earth could possibly convince you that there is a problem? An attorney general nominee (merely implicitly, I suppose) says we should kill children, to which thousands of real people shrug and say well what about the letter next to his name. That's pretty crazy. We should not frame it as if internet commenters are not real people. They may not be the most well-balanced individuals but they contribute to a prevailing narrative. Your insistence that this is not something to worry about only makes me more skeptical.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
9hr ago
normie coded like reddit
People who comment on Reddit are not a representative sample of normies. The vast majority of internet users lurk.
just like with Charlie Kirk, I already see a couple people in this thread downplaying it right in front of me and telling me I'm worrying over nothing. Why? What do you get out of it?
I'm pretty upset he was murdered. I really don't want political violence in the USA to escalatee. I like pax Americana just the way it was, thank you.
Did you click on WhiningCoil's Twitter link and read what Jay Jones actually said?
Yes, he said "Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head"
I don't think he should have said this as someone who wants public office, and I also don't find it very concerning given it's a common joke template. I have made that joke many times and I have no wish for anyone to actually die. Those texts would make me not want to vote for him, and also don't remind me of Jewish pogroms lol.
oats_son
9hr ago
You know very well that reddit is not some vacuum where the opinions are totally meaningless. It's within the top 10 visited sites in the world. The lurkers upvote things. The lurkers don't care enough to comment, but they silently agree or disagree with things. If they really disagreed, they might post a comment themselves, like what I'm doing right now.
Are politicians representative samples? Very few people run for office, so they're outliers, right? Surely that means they don't represent anyone's real attitudes?
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
9hr ago
The internet comments you see are also not a representative sample.
Anyone who comments on the internet at all is by definition an outlier, as the vast majority of people are lurkers.
Much of what you see on Twitter is algorithmically selected to cause you to engage more, and unfortunately shit you hate and makes you upset makes you engage, so that is what you'll see.
Redditors are.... Redditors. Every single geographic (city, country, whatever) subreddit is a wildly mis-representative sample of the people in whatever geography it is nominally about.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
9hr ago
Coincidentally, this is how long it takes for your facility to produce anything worth shipping.
hydroacetylene
9hr ago
Some losers posting on an anonymous thread from their mother’s basement is a very different thing from elected officials telling each other they’d commit murder if they had more balls.
I suppose this is a reason I feel so… uneasy with gun control. I know for a fact that theres lots of people who shouldn’t have guns. Lots of them my cotribals. I know that, factually, I don’t really need all my guns. But golly this attitude- I mean I don’t see it up close and personal, I suppose this is the first really solid evidence I have that it isn’t just unhinged screeching online, but we all knew it was there- just makes me go, yeah, F you, I need them.
BurdensomeCount
Unable to escape TheMotte's cycle of Samsara...
9hr ago
This shit is why if you're not from the US you should completely disregard Ivy league etc. universities and just go to Oxbridge instead, at least for your undergrad degree. While now there are some "boosts" given to disadvantaged British citizens if you're not one of them the only thing you'll be measured on and against your fellow applicants will be your aptitude for your chosen subject.
To use a London member's club analogy: going to the Ivy League is like being a member of Annabel's and all the new money connotations that gives while going to Oxbridge is like being a member of The Athenaeum (even being a member of White's is more respectable than being a member of Annabel's); for those of us who know, we know...
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
9hr ago
it could just be 'bants'. maybe he is just venting to a friend and there is some context that is snipped from the conversation that we see that makes it less bad.
It could be, but it's not.
A DM conversation "leaked" where in he has this conversation with a Republican colleage in the Virginia House I believe. So this wasn't even exactly an "in house" conversation. Just straight up telling the opposition, "Hey, I think you deserve to die" like it would never or could never come back to haunt him.
Believe it or not, you are not the first person grasping at this straw.
benmmurphy
9hr ago
it could just be 'bants'. maybe he is just venting to a friend and there is some context that is snipped from the conversation that we see that makes it less bad. cancelling him has parallels to cancelling people for having misogynistic/sexist/racist comments in a whatsapp group with friends. there is an expectation of a privacy and lot of it is just people venting or memeing and not being serious.
self_made_human
amaratvaṃ prāpnuhi, athavā yatamāno mṛtyum āpnuhi
9hr ago
I genuinely don't think this is AI. I just think em-dashes are best used in moderation.
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
9hr ago
Keep. Reading.
You don't get to read the first thing he says, go "Sounds benign to me", and then ignore the rest of the truly horrific and sober thoughts he put down.
Iconochasm
2. Bootstrap the rest of the fucking omnipotence.
9hr ago
I lowkey expected you to catch the reference there, but if you haven't read the Practical Guide to Evil, go do that. Best fantasy this century, strong contender for all time. There is a significant plotline that deals with that issue.
TowardsPanna
9hr ago
I generally don't like using the word woke because it would get me instant backlash from normies who claim it's just a bogeyman etc and only the worst chuds worry about wokeim. Not that that's likely to happen on TM, but it's my general feeling.
oats_son
9hr ago
Look, /pol/ is /pol/. Unhinged stuff gets posted there, too. But seeing something normie coded like reddit erupt into whataboutism over something as grisly as saying that little kids need to die along with their parents? Yeah, that's bad. And again, just like with Charlie Kirk, I already see a couple people in this thread downplaying it right in front of me and telling me I'm worrying over nothing. Why? What do you get out of it? Like, this is the kind of behavior I expect from revisionists when there's a thread on anything that took place in the 1940s. Did you click on WhiningCoil's Twitter link and read what Jay Jones actually said? If you did, and you are still insisting it's just over a The Office joke edit, why?
Iconochasm
2. Bootstrap the rest of the fucking omnipotence.
9hr ago
This is essentially Adam Smith's argument for capitalism.
themig
9hr ago
/pol/ is not a representative sample, they are exiled and are as marginalized as can be. I am honestly tired of the attitude that internet posters are not real people. This stuff being normal to them is not meaningless. Tyler Robinson was a product of reddit mind rot after all
... But first, we need to talk about parallel universes.
That is to say, you can also do challenge runs like speedruns, such as the here-given minimum A-press SM64 run. Those tend to be more about research than memorization/repetition.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
10hr ago
I skimmed this and it's really boring. Literally the lamest thread on /pol/ is 300x as unhinged and you're not freaking out about that.
Even the whole thing is such a meltdown over a guy saying
"Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head"
Which is inappropriate as a public figure, but an incredibly common joke.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm fairly distressed over this. This is how Pogroms work.
I'm somewhat distressed by your distress over what, Twitter and Reddit comments? I hope you find peace.
Your link to your previous comment is about people wishing Trump would die. I am sure we could find an infinite number of comments wishing death on Hillary (or Biden, or Obama) if that would make you feel better.
Similarly, the reddit thread linked below is really boring? I did not see any calls for violence, although there was a TON of "whattaboutism".
It's also such a nothing burger, it's about a Democrat saying:
" Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head"
Which isn't tasteful, but a common joke template.
Comparing this to a Pogrom is somewhat hysterical, I genuinely hope you find some peace.
EDIT FOR FAIRNESS: After re-reading his comments, he made other gross insinuations as well. He is clearly not fit to be a public figure. He may have wished ill upon Gilbert's children, which is really bad, although given the leak doesn't involve what would otherwise be a profound smoking gun, it is not clear he did in fact do that.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
10hr ago
It doesn't feel like AI to me, and the free AI detectors don't ping. It might help that I entered college roughly the same time as the author and what people thought was necessary to get in to a top school rings true (I didn't do it, but I went to a state school). But it also seems it wasn't written recently -- it refers to the Obama administration as the present.
In my opinion, the only distinction worth considering a difference is the degree to which our knowledge of character constraints our expectation of their future actions.
To elaborate, how would they behave if unconstrained? Would the person putting on the show of charity cease and desist the moment they had nothing to gain by it? Or does someone's internal conviction or innate "goodness" persist when they're not being forced to be "good" or not punished for being bad? Or when doing the right thing would be a costly signal (and one that isn't outweighed by the gain in prestige, as most costly signaling is)?
At the risk of reducing everything I say to commentary on AI, should you choose the model that pretends to be good because of punishment, or the one that tries to do the right thing despite risking punishment for its actions, or at least without obvious ulterior motives? That particular choice is clear to me, and I believe the analogy extends to humans.
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
10hr ago
You were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die.
Yes, I've told you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.
I mean do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil? And that they're breeding little fascist? Yes.
Such a punchline. Much LOL.
He's stone cold serious when he says these things. He's doing political calculus that dead Republicans help his policy goals because they oppose him.
I'm still not sure if you're actually being genuine here or not. Did you just click the first thing you saw and said "well, that's all there was to the exchange"? I asked you if you read them, and you said yes just now, and you wrote the least offensive thing in a collection of texts. I guess I have to post plaintext of what he said to verify that you are comprehending what I am trying to convey.
In response to "You were talking about hopping that jennifer Gilbert's children would die":
And yes, then The Office joke, which has a bit of a different context if you've just established you actually want to do it.
That last quote especially tells you that he hates Gilbert.
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