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A tale of two tracks
Suggested track order: HH -> WW3 -> Good Life -> Champion
I recently began listening to Kanye West's new songs, the ones I really liked were hh and ww3, ww3 in particular. This comment is a comparison of two tracks from his best album graduation(good life, champion) and two from his newest album titled cuck (hh, ww3).
For those unaware, Kanye West is an African American producer and singer who makes hip hop and is hailed as a modern day great in the genre, Kim Kardashian, his ex wife left him after his born again Christian arc in late 2010s, she ended up having a short stint with unfunny Jewish comedian Pete Davidson which sent him off the rails. Kanye was slightly conservative and was a trump guy in 2016, even contested for president in 2020 and was a full blown groyper by 2024.
Through happenstance, his anti Jewish sentiment led to him meeting ultra online lol cows like self admitted catholic eunuch milo, Mexican American anti hetero rights crusader Nicholas J Fuentes and racially ambiguous streamer Sneako known for changing ideologies faster than a Hugh Hefner could change girlsfriends.
His new album titled cuck is something for internet history. I'm not an anti semite and the wall of text above exists to give context and perhaps Crack you up a little. The song HH which doesn't stand for Hulk Hogan brother is Kanye's first major track that got banned o all streaming platforms beyond twitter. The name "nigga Heil hitler" seems something out of a 4chan acid trip. The follow up titled world war 3 us a much better song imo, both are very catchy and the alleged schizophrenic rants by Kanye in both make you laugh.
Many artists grapple unsuccessfully with mental issues, Kanye keeps apologising to (((them))) and upon reactivation of his account, takes it all back and then some. I first heard him in Chiang Mai during a very difficult time of my life and his album graduation stood out, two tracks in particular, champion which is about his father and Good Life which is about living well.
His personality changed post that album due to his mother's demise and I haven't heard much beyond that one album and I'll keep it that way as I dislike hip hop, however I do urge mottizens to give his old and new works a shot. The newer tracks give a decent enough explanation of his erratic behavior and the two older ones are about him looking forward to life as he can sense it's his time. The tragedy being that all of it didn't work out well. His mother passed away before saw him become a megastar, his white picket fence catholic idea of marriage fell apart so bad that he cannot see his kids, who will grow up in a broken household despite having parents worth a billion.
Ye has real grievances he cannot admit publicly, hip hop has gangster roots, weakness isn't "keeping it real". The contrast between two tracks stand out. In the good life he brags about the women he bags whilst in both hh and ww3, he semi unironically admits that he is seen as a cuck. Money and fame did not in fact make his life better.
His mention of his nitrous abuse is brought up in both new tracks. I tried it once, with a girl I really liked on my time backpacking in pai Thailand, it's a short high, quite intense and long term abuse will cause your spine fatal problems. Mr West is 47, graduation came out about 18 years ago now and this comment isn't a writeup to promote low brow right wing talking points.
Somewhere in his head, there's a happy kanye who could provide his kids the life he wanted and lived to see them grow up, alas we only get an extremely online nitrous huffer who may not see the next decade.
I ways he was aware as we look through some lyrics from champion
"having money ain't everything, not having it is".
And the chrous from good life
Did you realize
That you were a champion in their eyes? (Kanye's referring to his father here)
Yes I did
So I packed it up and brought it back to the crib
Just a little something, show you how we live
Everybody want it, but it ain't that serious Mhm, that's that shit
So if you gon' do it, do it just like this... like this
Unfortunately, it did get serious, marrying a woman who got famous off of showing skin and trying to get her to be your trad wife did cost him, the old addage goes "men conquer the world, women conquer men" . Kanye isn't Bach, he's still a damn good artist. I sympathize with him deeply.
Nostalgia is a bad thing, an emotion I rarely like as life's lived forwards, not backwards. I'll listen to his newer tracks now before I pop on the two I like from graduation, it's summer, sometimes you should stop and look back. Dondas son made it to TV and he did put shit down.
They're sitting on a $50b pile of money, surely they can bridge the Trump administration if they want to?
I'm a noob wannabe hacker who's doing this to become better at what I do and be employed via remote jobs or start indie hacking.
Install Linux from scratch. Distros are for people who just want to use Linux without necessarily understanding it. There's nothing wrong with that--it's why I mostly stick with WSL these days--but setting up an LFS install will teach you things about Linux that carry over to any distribution you choose to (or are forced to) use in the future.
I'm still not convinced the Mangione we have in custody is the same guy as the killer. Who the hell doesn't dump all the gear and clothes unless they want to be caught, also why are you shopping/being seen on CCTV shortly before going John Wick on a motherfucker unless you WANT to be caught.
I think it is more a matter of conflicting priorities. Desktops and servers have different requirements from an OS and Linux development is heavily biased toward prioritizing server requirements over desktop requirements when they conflict.
A family that crashes their distros together stays together.
Also cool flair.
I wonder how Linux desktop keeps being something so far away each year. Many reckon programming standards have fallen as more picked up the thing.
More seriously, The Schism had less commentary on all three assassination attempts combined, between Trump and Kavanaugh, in an entire year, than it spent debating whether Trump was fascist in a single week before the 2024 election. (answer: of course, it's just a matter of how fascist). Tesla arsons, Paul Kessler, new phone who dis?
That's the subreddit that came into existence because people here didn't downvote a post FCfromSSC ate a ban over hard enough about advocacy of violence. Maybe direct advocacy is not universal among Blue Tribers (though I'll point again to Ken White or my tumblr feed and its regular DenyDefendDepose fandom), and maybe it's not here (modulo whenever Impassionata makes their next alt), but they don't care enough to comment on it; does anyone think there's a Blue Tribe locale that's going to be any stronger?
I explicitly called out Impassionata's escalating advocacy and tolerance of violence on TheSchism and it was recognized as a quality contribution. There are still Blue Tribers who see the same pattern of escalations that @FCfromSSC does and who lament that too few of our "allies" seem to be taking de-escalation seriously and would rather risk violence in pursuit of power.
Not dual booting, I'm removing windows, if manjaro keeps fucking up, I'll switch to another distro, my mentor runs arch or a variant of it, this is his suggestion, he'll help me set it today.
Yeah, I wanna pimp my distro lol
I'm a noob wannabe hacker who's doing this to become better at what I do and be employed via remote jobs or start indie hacking.
The constant breaking of things and hard ceilings on wsl meant that switching to Linux full time would help me get better.
Also cool to meet a prof, my dad's a second gen prof to, political theory though. Good to see academics here!
I'm using manjaro because my mentor recommends it, if it keeps breaking, I'll switch to another distro. I had Ubuntu on my wsl.
Reminds me of Ross' wordless sound poems.
I mean I disagree. The reason people think of Harvard as a top tier school is because of the faculty it attracts and the work they do. If they all leave for greener pastures, the only thing left is the name. Sure you can coast on that for a while, but other schools who get the great professors and scientists will see their stars rise against Harvard’s downswing. If you can’t argue that you’re doing the best research, or developing minds under the best professors, on what, exactly is the prestige based? Name brand can help, but if it becomes obvious that Harvard graduates are not as good as in years past, they lose.
IIRC the simplification was not the only thing that fucked it up, it's also a lot of stuff like "oh, but if you crack open Beowulf you'll see that these words totally sounded the same back then!" if you imagine Mandarin as English.
It’s a completely different mindset to what happens in almost any other area of life.
Whose life?
In their lives, this is exactly how it works. They don't live in a world of reality, they live in a world of procedure; they don't live in a world of action, they live in a world of discussion and abstraction. They can even play-fight their own organizations (public-sector unions being the best example of this, since it's government negotiating with itself).
They don't have to produce any actual work, or any measurable results; they're getting paid either way. That's how the levers of power work for these people, and they are experienced in working them. (This causes anxiety in the personnel who pride themselves on doing the actual work- performing well is actually a detriment to your job security.)
It’s not just numbers of people and slogans, it’s about power, and if you don’t understand how to turn the levers of power you have access to, its not doing anything and you are wasting your time.
"Gaining power through manipulation of reality generating better outcomes" and "gaining power through manipulating the first group" are two very different things. The second group's power ultimately depends on the consent (manufactured or not) of the first group.
Trump, and the set of political undercurrents his movement represents, all represent a withdrawal of that consent. Some places- Western Europe, for instance- have atrophied so hard, and diluted the power of the second group so effectively, that the second group is unable to withdraw their consent. [Mass migration is instinctively encouraged by the first group for that reason.] The US is able to field a Trump specifically because it hasn't fully atrophied in that way.
Richard Hanania, Anatoly Karlin, David Cole, along with of course the liberals, never Trump conservatives, etc., regard the populist right readership as a giant lump of aggregate stupidity has something to do with said readership.
It's hard to take the criticism seriously, when you propose any of these people are supposed to be barometers warning against aggregate stupidity.
That's a kind of inoffensive stupidity though. Overt obsequiousness is just unpleasant.
I do not remember anyone on the Motte (even Blue folks like me) reacting to the attempted Trump assassination with anything other than disapproval.
Indeed not. The general social thread between wishing Crooks hadn't missed / donating to Luigi / donating to Anthony / winking and nodding at attacks on Tesla owners and dealers has no representatives here that I'm aware of. And likewise, many and perhaps even most Americans don't approve of it. That doesn't stop that social thread from being both notable and significant, though, or from it having knock-on effects.
Maybe I didn't express enough horror and disapproval for you, but no one thought it was no big deal or worse, something to be encouraged.
There's a fundamental disconnect here. It does not appear to me that you or indeed other blues here failed to express sufficient horror over the attempted assassination or these other events. What horror you express or don't express is entirely orthogonal to the point I'm trying to make.
The assassination attempt is bad. The evident social approval from broad segments of the population is worse. I understand that you are not part of that approving population, but you disapproving doesn't make them stop existing, and it doesn't undo the effects of them existing.
And by and large, I did not see that reaction even among my most leftie friends.
I do. I have family whose serious opinion seems to be that it's a tragedy Crooks missed, and who think Elon probably needs to die as well. I joined an artists' discord recently, and within the first ten minutes on the group chat someone dropped a "man, it's gonna be great when someone finally kills those guys..."
But we don't need to rely on anecdotes. The riots and their handling were a national barometer. The Tesla attacks and the reaction to them are a national barometer. Donations to murderers and the reaction to them are a barometer. And in the same way, treatment of the J6 perps, on both sides, is likewise a barometer. The readings are not good, and do not seem to be getting better. Fatally, this is a trend lasting at least a decade, and in that decade nothing productive has been accomplished to combat it in any significant way.
I think more Americans of all political stripes think trying to assassinate politicians (even politicians they dislike) is bad, than you are willing to credit.
The number of Americans who think lawless political violence is bad is much less important than the number of Americans willing and able to enforce norms against support for political violence. I am arguing that the latter number is too low, and has been for more than a decade. This is not a problem you or I or Trace or even the whole Motte collectively can fix, but it is a problem we should be able to recognize. Neither moderate blues, nor indeed moderate reds, have found a way to reign in the excesses of extremist blues. The best they've managed is to stick their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening. The problem is that they are not going to be willing to do this when extremist Reds start playing tit for tat, and worse, the mechanisms to coordinate an actual response won't be there either, because the toleration of extremist blue misdeeds in the past will have destroyed any willingness to coordinate against extremist red misdeeds in the present. We've seen this dynamic play out many, many times. We're going to keep seeing it in the future, because there doesn't seem to be a way to stop it. It's hard to argue that we should even try, if the only way to get consensus on norm enforcement is when the enforcement is aimed exclusively at Reds. That is not a social structure worth defending.
We had the dueling fundraisers recently: blues donated to a kid who murdered another kid, and Reds responded by donating to a lady who got videoed called a kid the N-word. We had a lively debate about that. What happens when Reds donate millions to the red version of a Luigi or a Carmello Anthony? What are the predictable social consequences of that sort of statement? That's the question I was trying to communicate. None of this is a demand for action. None of this is a claim you or anyone else could have or should have done other than as you have. It is not a criticism of you. Nor is it support for Kulak or Kulakism; unlike Kulak, I renounce hatred and am committed to working against it. Kulak wants blood and chaos as a terminal value, I want peace and plenty very badly, badly enough to accept significant amounts of injustice aimed at me and mine. But we have gone from tacit support for thugs beating protesters to nationwide riots to dozens of millions of Americans openly supporting political murder as a solution to their perceived problems. What we have here is the creation of common knowledge.
Right now, no one is trying to enforce a norm against political violence. But what I am trying to tell you is that, right now, no one can enforce a norm against political violence, because the norm is already gone. This is not obvious because no one is yanking on the lever, but I am warning you that the lever is in fact broken, and it will be obvious that it is broken the next time someone yanks on it. It's conceivable that we could rebuild the mechanisms that lever connects to before we actually need to yank on it, but it's very obvious that no one is actually doing that.
You can stop blockading the Gaza Strip What do you mean by
blockading? Do you mean controlling what goes in to the territory where the governimg body uses the pipes meant for water supplies to make rockets? Yeah, no country is going to allow supplies in unexamined in that situation.
stealing land in the West Bank and illegally imprisoning
I agree, the settlements should not happen, but the Palestinians should have by now come up with state borders which would have prevented this rather than clinging to the delusion that they're going to retake Israel. We should have two people negotiate proper borders but the Palestinians are uninterested in this.
You can not use the Hannibal Directive, which killed some unspecified % of the hostages and civilians (it’s crazy we still don’t know the extent of this)
What percentage of the deaths on October 7th do you think died to Hannibal directive? The policy rescinded in 2016.
You can implement the most asinine security measures to prevent any future attack, starting with a common sense “don’t throw raves right next to Gaza”
Do you attribute any agency at all to Gazans? Are they just animals incapable of higher reasoning in your estimation? They can't be expected to differentiate right from wrong?
You can pursue diplomacy based on returning encroached land in the West Bank
Would hamas accept a two state solution on these borders?
They failed? How so? If someone watches the NFL and whatever comes after the NFL would one not be persuaded in the direction that Rittenhouse is a murderer and J6 was an insurrection and the worst political act since the Civil War?
Read Groseclose. These people are still powerful even if they are not all powerful. The results of an election with a fair press would be Trump losing to his challenger from the right.
There's a pretty large contingent of dumb-right people lurking around especially on the heterodox, there's the Hinkle crowd. I don't understand the mind of anyone who's super into multilateral world order or BRICS content today but they are around and people are catering to them. It's a big mistake to discredit ideas simply because some dumb or cringe people are also following them IMO, ideas should be judged on their own merit.
Also could you give an example of the substacks you're talking about, there are many genres of this stuff.
or establish some sort of Egyptian civil control of 'just' Gaza, which renders the war premise of war moot.
IIRC Israel has tried to offload Gaza to Egypt at least a few times before, and Egypt isn't interested (nor is Jordan in the West Bank, despite both having held those territories in the last century). My read on this is that nobody likes the Palestinians, even those trying to use them as moral bargaining chips. That said, the three-state solution with those annexations is one of the few outcomes I can imagine achieving long-term stability on the region.
If America gets to "let's stay out of it" Israel is doomed.
How so? Israel is at the point it can kick all of its neighbors asses in perpetuity so long as America is not hostile to it. If we are merely willing to sell them goods at market prices, they can win forever. The only risk for them is if we treat them like Apartheid SA (along with Europe doing the same, which would, given current trends precede the US).
If we merely treated the conflict like an African conflict, Israel could be killing babies intentionally, on video, every day, and no one would care.
Israel's material support from the US is offset by our caring, probably to such an extent that they would be better off if we treated the region like a black box.
People who use power = bad Powerlessness = virtue.
It really is that simple. Progressivism is a massive navel-gazing operation in which people extol the virtues of powerlessness. Using power is something Icky Fascists do, and might hurt someone's feelings, so it has to be avoided at all costs. You see, if we take power away from the powerful, money from the wealthy, and beauty from the masses, and grant it all to the marginalized, everything will be better.
Like how taking away the farms from the whites worked in Zimbabwe, it's not that the new owners knew how to use the things they were given, but that it corrected a long-standing score, and that's what matters. Not the actually farming part. They want all the power but they don't want to govern. They want to control politics without participating in it. Very childish, very stupid. Very Theater Kid.
I'm thinking of biting the bullet on plastic surgery. I've always had chubby cheeks, without that much definition even when I was 10 kilos lighter, and buccal fat removal was something I'd been eyeing for years. I just didn't really have the money or the impetus to go for it back then.
I had an appointment with a reputable plastic surgeon today, and started off with a debate on whether he could exclude body dysmorphia in my case lol. I explained that in a psychiatric context, didn't any degree of dissatisfaction with one's physical appearance that involved attempts to modify it count? Why doesn't going to the gym or dieting to lose weight count? Besides, you'd need to have significant impairment in psychosocial functioning to warrant it. The DSM-5 includes, under BDD:
While the roundness of one's face is a subjective thing, it's certainly not non-observable.
At any rate, he pretty successfully upsold me, explaining that I had hypertrophic masseters, which would make mere buccal fat removal not have very significant effects on the overall contour of the face. He also explained that instead of discarding buccal fat, as is the norm, he finds benefit from it being re-injected below the eyes and on the chin. To help tone down the masseters further, he suggested botox. I'm not particularly keen on semi-annual injections into my face, but I think it's worth a shot.
Anyone undergo anything similar?
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