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07mk
3hr ago
I actually think celebration would be less cancel-worthy than blatantly spreading misinformation like that. I don't know if there's enough leeway in judgment calls to say that Kimmel really believed that the murderer was a MAGA, or that this being a comedy show meant that it was not meant to be taken seriously (really, I don't know the laws around this - does the fact that the joke relies on an implicit statement of fact play into it?), but it looks like FCC pressure just from public comments may have played into the decision, which is the part I find troubling. I'd hope the owners would have enough decency to do this independently, but we'll never know, I suppose. But celebrating his death, that I'd see as simple edgy comedy like Maher saying the 9/11 hijackers were the brave ones, which got his Politically Incorrect show canceled, IIRC, unfairly, IMHO.
greyenlightenment
investments: META/FBL, TSLA, TQQQ, TECL, MSFT ...
3hr ago
"life without parole" (LWOP)
07mk
3hr ago
Was anyone here very familiar with Charlie Kirk before the assassination in terms of his politics, his media activity, and such, and if so, do you know of any good primary resources that would be good as an introduction for someone with very little familiarity of the guy? I do believe strongly that, regardless of whom or what, if someone is murdered for their speech, that speech automatically earns status as being worthy of listening to, and I realized I wasn't living up to my principles. I barely heard about the guy before and just knew him as a conservative media figure with a lot of influence on college campuses with his debate tents, and that he was quite Christian, but beyond that, I had no clue. Even pre-, but especially post-assassination, I figure that only direct, primary sources are trustworthy wrt his beliefs and behaviors, so I figured I'd check out the TP USA site & YouTube channel, but I was also wondering if anyone knew of a particularly representative or condensed resource for media of him.
Tiber727
3hr ago
I think it's a matter of, at the end of the day the target does at least influence whether the method is bad. I wouldn't want the government to send assassins in the middle of the night, unless the target is Bin Laden. More like, "There are bad methods, but..."
For Brian Thompson, the belief is there that he took money from people with the promise that he would help heal them when they are sick, then reneged on that promise. Ergo he is harming if not killing people, and suffering no consequences for it. His sins are extreme enough that it's easy for them to reconcile.
Kirk doesn't quite meet that bar. Sure, lefties say that words are violence. But I'd bet money that if it were hypothetically possible to run an experiment where you gathered a large group of hardcore lefties and said, "I'm putting you in a room with Brian Thompson and Charlie Kirk. Here's a gun with one bullet." I don't think the results would be even close.
FirmWeird
Randomly Generated Reddit Username
3hr ago
You can't actually think the world would be willing to starve Israelis to death for the crime of starving Palestinians.
The world was willing to execute Nazis after the holocaust even though their crime was executing jews. Any Israelis who did not voluntarily leave the country and renounce Zionism would be regarded the same as the nazis who didn't give up after the war was lost - they're actively committed to the project and voluntarily taking on responsibility for what Zionism did.
But that said, this wouldn't be the world starving Israel to death - Israel's remaining farmers would be able to produce some food after all. It just wouldn't be able to support a population nearly as large as it currently has, which would be a big problem when their military protection gets cut off as well. Food security is just one of the large number of threats waiting for an isolated Israel, and while it wouldn't be an insurmountable problem by itself the real issue is how it would exacerbate all the other problems they're facing.
philosoraptor
3hr ago
LWOP
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All a quick Google gives me for this is "leave without pay" (i.e. temporary absence from your job). As I've said before, people need to get in the habit of defining their acronyms.
Why are these people paid so much for such mediocre jokes and commentary. Random people on twitter have better insights for free. Yeah, I get the economic argument (people tune in to see him deliver the jokes, not a random person), but the occupation of 'late night TV host' has long outlived its usefulness .CBS balking at paying $40 million a year for Colbert is an indication of this.
If such a big figure can fall, who will be next?
These people are surprisingly expendable. Many celebs were axed during Trump's first term. We're not talking Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, or Sam Altman here , where a trillion dollar company hinges on the directive of a single person. Right wing cancel culture, like the doge cuts, is much more methodical , thorough and organized than haphazard like how the left does it . They , the left, forgot the mass cancellations during the 2001-2006 about Iraq, 9/11 and so on, like Bill Maher's 9/11 comment that led to his cancellation. They got too cocky. It's like, "we're cancelling everyone to make up for the past 10 years"
Pulpachair
3hr ago
Colbert’s show has been losing money for years. I suspect Kimmel and other late night shows are as well. This may have just been giving Disney an excuse to do what they wanted to do anyway.
Really, really don’t like that the FCC threatened licenses and then this happens.
DoctorMonarch
♬We're so happy that we live in 1800's Alabama 'cause it's sunny and there is no crime!♬
3hr ago
A few years ago Kimmel fired his longtime announcer Dicky Barret, lead singer of the Mighty Mighty Bosstones (my favorite band 25ish years ago), over COVID vaccine disagreements, with Kimmel having said very harsh things about vaccine skeptics for some time. So I'm going to listen to a Bosstones song about regret and reflection on friendships that died and turned hostile https://youtube.com/watch?v=6vDz56QoR94
5434a
3hr ago
To me everything looks like crap or scam. So I wonder - who buys it, for them to make any money
There's a world of people out there with more money than brains. And to avoid uncharitability some of those people have a lot of brains but they have even more money, and so they don't see a problem with spending money to try something out quickly and easily instead of spending brain power to get there slowly.
Throwaway05
3hr ago
A lot of the wealthy right leaning people who run things woke up last week and realized that the left wasn't kidding about murdering people, that the United CEO wasn't going to be a one off and that in addition to that element of self-interest that wokeism isn't really making them money.
Expect a lot of rapid correction to more representative behavior.
Iconochasm
2. Bootstrap the rest of the fucking omnipotence.
3hr ago
He's just slandering a large chunk of the country with laughably false disinformation in a breathtaking display of hypocrisy. I don't know if that's something anyone could sue over, but after Colbert I wonder if his show is hemorrhaging money as well, and the network was just thrilled to have an excuse.
Primaprimaprima
Aliquid stat pro aliquo
3hr ago
10 steps forward 2 steps back, Moloch always swims left, ineluctable Brazilianization, etc.
I don’t see any reason to celebrate a couple individuals getting fucked over if it doesn’t change the calculus at a societal level. In fact I find it regrettable. I don’t actually want leftists to suffer just for being leftists.
yunyun333
3hr ago
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,
That's it? He didn't even, like, celebrate his death.
Seems like Nexstar is trying to butter up Trump for some deal that needs governmental approval in the future.
aqouta
4hr ago
This is actually not true. There are real limits to the amount of food that can be imported to Israel due to their security situation - and remember that in this case we're talking about an Israel several years into the future from now, where their reputation has been torched and nobody is willing to support or trade with them. No more US money to Egypt and the other nations around them means no more land trade. The US giving up (well more than they have already) at dealing with the houthis means there's no more shipping, either. How does Israel import the materiel and energy required to exist without US support? This is a serious logistical question, and as far as I can tell the answer is that there's no way for them to do so once the US teat is removed.
If you are right and all this comes to pass then at worst they're in the state the Palestinians are in and the Palestinians get food. You even support their own genocidal government and oppose them not being given food aid. You can't actually think the world would be willing to starve Israelis to death for the crime of starving Palestinians.
SwordOfOccam
4hr ago
Yeah, that's cope right there.
Especially given that GOP officials are on the record about it.
ThomasdelVasto
Κύριε, ποίησόν με ὄργανον τῆς ἀγάπης σου
4hr ago
Yeah agreed. I think biometrics do more harm than good personally.
Jimmy Kimmel pulled indefinitely by ABC for Charlie Kirk comments.
Late night talk show hosts have waned from their glorious Letterman days, but boomers still care about then enough that they're still a scalp worth scraping off the skull. It's hard to think of a prominent figure on the right that would be equal in stature - Gina Carano? Piers Morgan? Roseanne Barr? nothing like him - if only for the fact that the entertainment industry is so aligned to the left. Indeed, even during the height of the progressive cancel culture era, it was liberal icons like Louis CK and JK Rowling that felt the heat.
If such a big figure can fall, who will be next?
With Colbert going off the air, and with the upcoming FCC hearings on Twitch, Reddit, Discord, and Steam, one can only anticipate the prizes that are coming. Destiny and Hasan are obvious trophies that the right would love to claim, but I have no doubt that the powerjanitors of Reddit are quaking in their boots. How many leftist/liberal commentators have made snarky comments on social media, as of late? This is the reddest of the red meat, dripping with blood, raw. The long march through the institutions has only just begun, and for the populist right base, it'll be a enjoyable hike indeed.
Skibboleth
It's never 4D Chess
4hr ago
No conservatives signing a letter that includes a denouncement of the current leader of the conservatives doesn't tell you conservatives don't care about free speech
Not alone, no, though given that Donald Trump is consistently anti-free speech, you would think principled conservative defenders would be willing to speak out against him on that front. Combined with other factors, it's pretty suggestive that conservatives are not pro-free speech, just pro-conservative. In particular, they never extend the same sufferance or support they demand from others. You say the football has been yanked too many times, but there's no history of betrayed reciprocity here. Cancel Culture has always been a thing, but it didn't become a Thing until right-wingers started complaining about it.
And now FIRE is progressive!
I didn't say FIRE was progressive. One of the peculiar aspects of Free Speech discourse is that is primarily an intra-left debate between liberals and progressives, with the right contributing little beyond parroting liberal arguments and complaining that progressives are rude to them.
Greg Lukanioff, however, is openly and unambiguously a liberal, and more broadly, virtually every non-partisan civil liberties organization is staffed and supported by liberals. There's not really any conservative equivalent to FIRE or the EFF or ACLU.
but of the successful attempts the left clearly dominates.
If by 'clearly dominates' you mean a 50% vs 40% success rate, that would seem like an indictment of the theory of left-wing supremacy, given that this is supposed to be their home turf, where they enjoy material and institutional superiority.
falling-star
4hr ago
Slow and steady progress at the gym. Now I can squat two plates and bench one plate. In the past week I suddenly got physical growth to match the strength gains. I feel so much more confident in general. A few pounds of muscle on my bones made a world of difference. I guess now I'll keep going and see how far I can climb this hill.
I want to do more self improvement things, but I'm running up against my time and energy budget. I'm hoping to fix my sleep soon and get more energy that way. Trying to cut down on doomscrolling, but this Charlie Kirk saga is making it hard. I've made more of an effort to talk to and dance with girls at events. No bites yet but I'm putting shots on goal.
General encouragement to all the bros and lurkers out there: There's a lot of low hanging fruit for making your life better. Find just one thing now, and you'll thank yourself in a few weeks.
falling-star
5hr ago
The red flag for being really magnesium deficient in my case was tightness or discomfort around my jaw. I noticed this when using drugs that depleted magnesium, and it was always immediately fixed by taking magnesium.
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