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fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
2hr ago
ADHD people should just... not become accountants
FUCK
In my defense, the ADHD diagnosis came after the CPA, although admittedly it wasn't much of a suprise to anyone (except me)
Quit accounting last year though, life has improved a lot since
Throwaway05
2hr ago
Sorry I don't really have a dog in this fight I just wanted to make that point specifically.
In truth I remain somewhat undetermined about how to handle this specific issue which is awkward given the possibility of it appearing in my clinical practice, however my plan is to just follow legal, regulatory, and hospital frameworks and stay out of the ethical side of this thing.
That said it is worth dialing in just how miserable certain classes of patients are. Again I'm not convinced we should assist them in dying but certain patients have a lived experience that is comparable or worse than the more typical examples (dying of chronic disease, intractably bad life experiences, significant chronic pain*).
For instance someone with severe borderline personality disorder may find themselves zigzagging from being too happy to wanting to kill themselves to burning down their relationships to getting fired to whatever on a regular basis. With associated involuntary suicidal ideation it can approach a point where the life experience is almost abhuman, miserable, and devoid of the traditional pleasures of existence.
That's a reasonably good case, especially since some people like this may struggle to successfully kill themselves because the system does a good job of preventing it and because the problem isn't pure depressive misery, therefore it becomes challenging to overcome the routine desire to live.
Again not necessarily advocating here just pointing out if you had chance to interact with one of these people you might go....oh yeah, I get it, holy shit (or might not).
*Although best we can tell this is somewhat linked to psychic distress.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
2hr ago
Also, creating alts to get past a ban doesn't mean you place no value on your word or reputation
Yes, it does.
Suggesting you'd be willing to reverse a permaban for things other than error in imposing it, however, does cast doubt on your word
We have always been willing to consider granting amnesty to someone who contacts us and asks for reinstatement, with the important proviso that they promise to stop behaving in the way that got them banned in the first place. I pointed this out to Hlynka when he first started coming back with alts.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3hr ago
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I suppose you're right, because no one else would refer to Steve Sailer as a liberal (except maybe Dreaded Jim). But both Bulverism and Ad Hominem being a formal fallacy but a practically useful idea are things I refer to often enough, and I'm definitely not him.
(Also, creating alts to get past a ban doesn't mean you place no value on your word or reputation, at least if you did not give your word not to. It merely means you don't respect the authority of the moderators. Suggesting you'd be willing to reverse a permaban for things other than error in imposing it, however, does cast doubt on your word.)
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3hr ago
The median teacher is a normie. Mathematically, this must be true- there are simply too many of them for it not to be.
There's about 4 million primary and secondary school teachers in the US, compared to about 260 million adults. That leaves plenty of room for non-normieness among teachers.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3hr ago
We should ban guns below a certain size limit for everyone except police/government agents/licensed bodyguards but otherwise legalize larger guns, including crew-served and mobile weaponry.
We do that, gun misuse shifts to larger guns, someone draws a circle around some subclass (e.g. "assault weapons") and moves to ban that one, lather, rinse, repeat.
Most legitimate uses (hunting, home defense, overthrowing a tyrranical government) are equally or better served by larger weapons
Personal defense is not.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
3hr ago
I have a cynical answer that I expect to get me in trouble with the moderators, because I am about to take a stand in defense of Bulverism.
Not for this, but for unmasking yourself. Someone else finally pointed out the obvious, and I am kicking myself for not seeing it.
Hlynka, I have told you this before, but I am hugely disappointed that rather than taking your ban like a man, or asking us to reinstate you, you keep creating alts. Good job that you managed to run this one for months and being actually rather flamingly obvious about it in retrospect and not getting tagged, but you're done now. We don't exert much effort to catch alts and some people think they are clever, clever little people bragging about how easy it is to recycle an alt every time you get banned, but it just shows you have no integrity and place no value on your word or reputation. You're there to troll, to shit up the place, to giggle and get your digs in before the mods swat you and you reboot. Hoorah, a winner is you. Yes, it's easy to do this. Eventually, however, everyone regresses to their mean.
hydroacetylene
3hr ago
The unadjusted scores are still quite good; perhaps they're not as good as Massachussets but leading the second quintile ain't bad.
hydroacetylene
3hr ago
The median teacher is a normie. Mathematically, this must be true- there are simply too many of them for it not to be.
But to be more specific, teachers are very very conformist women who are at least moderately good at school. If, going through a 'standard' American education system, you uncritically do what the system recommends at every point(and are smart enough to do so, but not smart enough for someone to recruit you out of it), you will probably wind up as a teacher. This is not a recipe for pushing back against retarded activist union bosses or doing hard work that your coworkers doubt the value of.
So no, Miss Smith, second grade teacher number three at literally who elementary that used to be named after a well-known but now problematic individual, does not bear responsibility for this proxy battle. It's hard to see how she even could. She took the job because she didn't think the default path pushed on her through very well, would rather go home after her shift than engage in politics but doesn't know how to say no. She probably likes believing that she's helping the kids in her classroom; she certainly likes the kids. She probably doesn't like her admins or union bosses but does whatever they say with no pushback- because she has never pushed back against anything in her life, ever. That the teaching profession is populated, on the 'grunt' level with the normiest, most submissive women in existence may not be good, but it is a failure of all of society rather than of those teachers themselves.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3hr ago
marinuso
3hr ago
Yes, suicide is bad. Ideally there would be no suicide at all. This is part of my point.
When we do something in an official manner, we thereby give it a stamp of approval. We should not approve bad things if we can avoid it. Because by doing so, we are saying that the bad thing shouldn't be considered as all that bad. We are shifting the norms and encouraging more of it. We can't always avoid this, but we should at least always try.
If someone's dying anyway, say with terminal cancer, and we artificially keep him alive at that point (which we've gotten quite good at), we are merely prolonging his suffering. At that point, sure, just end it humanely.
But this person (and see my other comment, there are more) was not actually dying. She was in fact physically healthy. There is no argument to be made that we are prolonging her suffering. We are not actively doing anything. There is no argument to be made about freedom either. If you are physically capable of killing yourself, you always have this option.
She could've ended her own life herself at any time. And that would still be bad, even if it truly is the least bad option it's still bad, but we would at least have avoided giving the act an official stamp of approval. And maybe she never would've killed herself, and then there would've been one less suicide. This is the point that I was trying to make.
And it does seem to be accelerating. I looked up the statistics (see my other comment for the sources). There were 14 euthanizations for purely psychiatric reasons in 2014. By 2024, this had grown to 219. In the same year, there were 1819 traditional suicides. So by now, for every ten suicides we're adding an eleventh.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
3hr ago
But like how much is too much MAID, is 10% too much? Is 50% too much? Define what your limit is.
Does the amount of death attributed to MAID even matter? If 96% of MAID recipients have a terminal illness, why do you care?
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3hr ago
It's also called "whole word". Amusingly, the Wikipedia page on it currently starts with a little editorializing in the opposite direction that you'd expect for Wikipedia:
Whole language is a philosophy of reading and a discredited[8] educational method originally developed for teaching literacy in English to young children.
"Discredited" dates back to May 2022. The citation goes here, which is clearly a biased source.
There's another citation to Jordan Peterson:
"You don't use whole word learning unless you're absolutely bloody clueless"
NewCharlesInCharge
3hr ago
I mean someone working on the site’s codebase, presumably with all the necessary credentials.
It makes for very short iteration times to run dev code locally connected to the prod database. That’s how we work on the front end code at Meta.
But I have no clue how people work on the code here.
FistfullOfCrows
3hr ago
Where to even start, the government used its tendrils in twitter and youtube/google/facebook to do its damndest censoring right wing voices/ gaslighitng the public about the origin of covid. They entirely suporessed biden's son's laptop shenanigans and the corrupt dealings with Borisma.
These mother fuckers tried to unperson and ruin Alex Jones. Hilldawg is still not in prison for the e-mail server and use of the state apparatus to try and paint Trump as a Putin controlled puppet.
mrvanillasky
Indo Aryan Thot Leader
3hr ago
My take which I will double down is that I come out of what he makes feeling joy, twin peaks has a charm, the bad things for me serve as a backdrop that let me enjoy that, this is a very normie take.
I am nearly on episode 7 of Twin peaks, David Lynch the actor is very fun to watch too. All the attempts to state what the show really is about are very valid, he wanted people to have their own interpretations. I will watch fire walk wth me post season 2. I would want to hear @TowardsPanna s take on Lynch since he too meditates a lot and would have a very interesting perception because of that.
What other shows or movies capture the same thing. My recent favorite directors are Joachim Trier whose work is mostly modern day scandi land slice of life dramas and robert eggers who makes movies that celebrate the folklore of Europe with decadent environments. I think I may be interested in reading good murder mysteries now after watching the show instead of surfing
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
3hr ago
I am fairly sure that even Bryan Caplan, when he makes his case against education, is not referring to primary education but to secondary (high school level) and post-secondary education. There is little doubt, IMO, that most people simply will not learn to read and write unless actually taught, and there are better (phonics) and worse (whole word) ways of teaching reading English. Same goes for arithmetic, though I suspect less so. Part of Freddie's "Education Doesn't Work 2.0" article is weaker than that; it is basically claiming education does work to larn you stuff but not to make you smarter, and thus doesn't change your relative position in society. Of course, even granting Freddie's thesis, this becomes false if Mississippi is doing the right thing and Illinois and Wisconsin are not; if that's true the Mississippi students will change position relative to Illinois and Wisconsin students.
Freddie does go on to say that no educational interventions work, and the Mississippi experience argues against that. But most of his evidence concerns older students. And it's quite likely the interventions he's referring to don't work. The reductio of the claim that educational interventions don't work is the claim that not teaching at all works as well as teaching, and that is clearly false -- but it does not mean that lesser claims are not true.
FistfullOfCrows
3hr ago
I'm frankly disappointed in Trey Parker and Matt Stone, Going back on their initial mockery of climate change; keeping their mouths shut on the frankly ridiculous clown world tier state of dems/ zombie Bidden. Where were they for the four years of nonstop gaslighting and censorship we endured?
hydroacetylene
3hr ago
If you mainly feel with your thoughts you probably have alexithymia, a surprisingly common condition
Why are we medicalizing this? It's common and not disabling. People should just go through life this way. It's 'normal human variation' not a 'condition'.
We medicalize way too much normal human variation. ADHD people should just... not become accountants and use the reminder/note taking functions in their phones instead of taking amphetamines. The mildly autistic should stop calling it that. Etc, etc. You don't need special accommodations for every human variation. Maybe just accept that not everything is for you.
Throwaway05
3hr ago
Okay, not a train. That's an asshole thing to do. If you're going to commit suicide, don't involve other people.
This is surprisingly hard to do. Someone needs to find the body and unless you plan carefully this can easily be a random bystander or group of random bystanders (and planning carefully is hard when you are suicidal).
Usually EMS and healthcare get involved and seeing someone who has committed suicide can be deeply harmful (especially if it's gruesome like a gunshot to the head). Often they'll have to run a code on the body even if it's clearly dead which is....awful.
Then you have to think about the family and friends of the deceased. Having a close contact or family commit suicide is a risk factor for suicide it hurts people around you in a way that just dying doesn't.
haroldbkny
4hr ago
I've never understood Parker and Stone when it comes to their politics, or at least not over the last 13 years since they moved on from their early episode libertarian leanings. Why have they gone easy on leftists so much since the rise of wokeness (note: I haven't consistently watched the last few seasons of South Park, so I may be wrong about recent years. But I remember them soft balling progressives from 2013 through 2017ish), and repeatedly claim that Trump is the worst person ever, then turn around and awkwardly claim they're Republicans. And most of the episodes I've seen of South Park over the last 5 years just seem so random and incoherent. I almost feel like they don't really have any convictions, don't really understand the current issues, and are just randomly throwing whatever elements they feel like together in episodes, while trying to pass it off as relevant political commentary.
hydroacetylene
4hr ago
I think the blue tribe ideological reason for not teaching reading don't have much to do with the idea that it's racist. It's an ideological fixation with teachers always being right. Teachers don't like phonics and self-proclaimed education experts say it shouldn't work- these things may be related, but they're both there and they're both more important than whether it actually works. To these people 'educating kids' isn't really the point of public schools- although it's ideal- public schools exist to spend an ever-increasing amount of money, provide jobs for college educated women, and separate kids from their parents. It's unsurprising that red states who care more about the kids learning than about using the public schools for evil can close the gap rapidly when discovering techniques that work.
Friedliche DeBoer (of the South African Boers perhaps?)
No, DeBoer is just Dutch for the farmer(the South African Boers were originally named this to refer to their supporting themselves by farming, in contrast to east india company employees). It's not a particularly uncommon surname and Dutch names are scattered throughout the US white population from either small waves of immigration or original settlement.
Throwaway05
4hr ago
Absolutely yes!
People have so much more variety in the way they view the world than you might imagine based on the fact that most people end up doing more or less the same things.
It gets super interesting in the case of legitimate pathology like personality disorders and speaks to some interesting things about the human condition (ex: true sociopaths with zero anxiety. They really aren't human, and it tells a bit about what anxiety is for).
As you note nearly everyone here is not normal at all and has features like super high ability to decouple, and a common fail state for people like us is to assume people with low ability to decouple aren't actually intelligent.
Another fun one is the way different cultures and native language speakers interact with the world can result in some foreignness. The results are generally mostly recognizable societies but a lot of Russians, Asians, Middle Easterners etc just experience the world in a way that is unexpectedly foreign.
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
4hr ago
I think for three years I watched Robby Suave at The Hill tee off on the Teacher's Union for fighting against phonics based teaching, despite all the science and decades of outcomes showing that whole language teaching is a miserable failure. But teachers hate it, because it's rote and boring, and they insist on narcissistically avoiding all unpleasant aspects of their job. Despite being responsible for the education of our next generation. So their union fights phonics based teacher curriculums tooth and nail.
At least that's what Robby's reporting showed consistently over the years. It was a bit of a hobby horse for him, and an area where his libertarian brain really found a nit to pick with the "trust the science" blue team.
The point I'm drifting towards is that this is really a proxy battle against teachers. The profession is overrun with activist LARPing as educators, their union is controlled by a lesbian activist, and to whatever degree education is occurring, it's haphazard and inertial based on decades of diminishing institutional knowledge. It's a low pay, highly political profession, and increasingly only true believers are attracted and willing to stay in the profession. The ones that treat the trials and tribulations of the profession as a test of faith for their activism are the only ones that thrive.
It seems to me the ways we can be internally wired are surprisingly numerous. For me its neither. Emotions aren't a physical sensation, they aren't thoughts either. Instead they are a different sensation i'm at a loss to describe. Same for internal monologue, I can do it, but it's not something that's inherently needed for thoughts. In a sense I can construct ideas/notions/sentences instantly as fully formed thoughts. Indeed it takes concentration and some work to translate these into words in English (or other languages), the speed of this subjective experience is incredibly fast, I have nothing to compare it to, but it feels like it's definitely on another scale compared to some of the people i've talked about this with. It's like the monologuers are beholden to this external framework of language and ideas they have absorbed from the outside, but that's not it for me.
It feels more like my mind operates in an abstract, global regime, where meaning exists in a raw, platonic form before any linguistic scaffolding is applied. The “translation” into language is almost a compression process, reducing something vast, multi-layered, and instantaneous into a linear stream of words that inevitably loses detail. Emotions in this space are not felt as muscle tension, chest tightness, or heart rate changes, nor are they simply patterns of thought.
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