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OliveTapenade
4hr ago
Christianity isn't so much about 'things being true' but getting into a mindset where 'it doesn't matter if it's true or not, I believe it'
I think you would find this claim very hard to square with even simply the Bible itself, much less the subsequent writings or even behaviour of Christians.
Christianity might be false - we may be, in Paul's words, of all people most to be pitied - but it is absolutely making truth claims, and those truth claims matter. They matter to Christians. The theology that you blithely dismiss can only exist because Christians care about this.
OliveTapenade
4hr ago
I'm not sure how the procedure for electing a pope bears on the truth of Christianity as such? Even leaving aside that Christianity could be completely true even at the same time that Catholicism is not (or rather, particular Catholic doctrines could be false and Catholic institutional practice ramshackle and poorly-grounded), I'm not at all clear on why you would an apostolic constitution of 1996 must be eternal and unchangeable even vis-a-vis Catholicism. The process by which the church elects a pope belongs to the freedom of the church - Catholics do not believe that it has been handed down by God. They believe that God allows them, as an institution, to decide the next pope.
AlexScrivener
4hr ago
The canon lawyers disagree with you.
The part about creating cardinals is a restriction on the person who creates cardinals, the Pope, who can ignore it at will.
The part that says no cardinal elector may be denied his right to elect the Pope is a restriction on the people who run the papal election, who are not the pope. They cannot dispense with it.
It might be that the Pope is in fact making up rules as he goes along, and you could make an argument that it would be better if the last 4 Popes had actually changed the wording of the law rather than just ignoring it, but none of that changes how the law actually applies and none of it changes the rules that require all cardinal electors to be allowed to vote.
mrvanillasky
Indo Aryan Thot Leader
4hr ago
The northeastern front isn't easy to conquer. The Himalayas act as a barrier that is pretty hard to breach, though I'd rather not think about a future where there is much Hindu blood lost.
mrvanillasky
Indo Aryan Thot Leader
5hr ago
This makes zero sense. No nation, even Pakistan wouldn't want Nukes involved. Kargil was fought post nukes where Pakistan clearly lost and nukes or civilian areas weren't targeted.
Pakistan needs to keep stirring things in India so that it's army can justify its existence. No one wants nukes involved. No one ever did and there had been a war that Pakistan lost, like every war they ever fought, neither side used anything beyond guns at the border, mostly.
AlexScrivener
5hr ago
Francis
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
5hr ago
To be clear, my experience with ordinary, working-class-in-the-sense-of-actually-works and middle class blacks has been that they know there's an issue with their culture, are often frustrated with African American Community Leaders and democrats for not addressing or acknowledging it...
I've had similar direct experiences. Unfortunately, I've also had direct experiences where individual blacks I knew bought the progressive racism/white-supremacy message hook line and sinker. There's a large section of the community that knows that at least a considerable portion of the problems are in-house. Aaron McGruder made a career out of shouting that message through a megaphone. But when push comes to shove, my observation is that the race-baiters win. Blue Tribe tells blacks that their problems are the fault of Red Tribe. Blue Tribe gets political power, Blacks get cheap hope and the avoidance of some really deeply unpleasant conversations. Until Red Tribe figures out how to make a better offer, it seems unlikely that this will change. And again, why should it? Red Tribe signed off on the promises too. Red Tribe politicians made all the same speeches about how education would fix everything. Red Tribe really does largely support and run the systems that coordinate meanness against individual blacks, at least if you're speaking in general terms. And crucially, Reds fundamentally do not have a better offer, at least from the black perspective, and at least in the short term. "we don't know how to solve this, and much of it is your own fault" is never going to beat "it's all their fault, help us beat them and we'll make you whole."
mrvanillasky
Indo Aryan Thot Leader
5hr ago
Love jihad is an exercise in weakness. The campaigning agaisnt it is weak though there's a kernel of truth in it, the premise is mostly flawed and the messaging only makes Hindus look worse
Conversions are a very real issue. Forcing poor people to accept Jesus as their lord and savior by offering them grains and threatening social exclusion should get you belted publicly.
I am not a hindutva guy, I am a reactionary which means I can actually be a Hindu. Hindutva comes from Maharashtra of the 1900s where people wanted a caste less Hindu state. Marathas are shudras or OBCs who out if rage agaisnt their more competent Brahmin counterparts, started funding explicitly anti Brahmin activists which influenced Hindutva as RSS and the Bjp, which are both sister organizations unofficially, come out of Maharashtra.
Unfortunately, non Hindutva alternatives are even worse. Nehru and his family set the nation back in ways there's no coming back from, ever. Up until a few years ago, prime minister of the nation wouldn't visit temples as that was agaisnt the secular fabric of the nation.
Don't forget people balstng Islamic prayers daily in Al localities with zero consequences, a way to tell others to fuck off and stay in their lane.
This is not a particularly dynamic field
Sadly I don't have my finger on the pulse as much as I would like to, but from what I can tell – less true than you might think. I'm not saying that sources from 2004 are bad but I'm also not sure that 2004 is "contemporary scholarship."
it refers to his contemporaries, not just Jews or men in general
Still not really seeing engagement with my point about Matthew 16:4. Which is probably fine – I am suspicious of arguments that rely too much on "hyperliteral interpretations of the text" and I think that argument tilts that way.
RandomRanger
Just build nuclear plants!
5hr ago
But at the risk of going full "boo outgroup," can I just say--I really, really hate crowdfunding? It seems like a horrible mistake, a metastasized version of the cancer of social media, virtue signaling with literal dollars that feed nothing but further grift.
As a matter of principle, I do not give money via crowdfunding. I don't even use Patreon, much less GoFundMe or GiveSendGo or whatever. I regard it as a moral failing when I see others do so, no matter how apparently worthy the cause.
Really? You've never benefitted from someone's freely accessible work and considered giving them a donation? What about this website? I am not paying to keep the servers up because I think I'm poorer than the average user and there is enough money in the pot but I don't think it's morally wrong for those who do! There are 20 people who are paying so the rest of us can enjoy something for free.
https://www.patreon.com/themotte/about
And in the general case, how is crowdfunding bad? Some are scammers but some are deserving. How are poor/niche games or webnovels supposed to be paid for? Just stick up a paywall?
I'd refer my posting history. For starters
- India is a secular nation, the only nation to house Hindus.
- There are religious subsidies, Muslims get a Haj subsidy whilst Hindu places of worship are mostly run by government, in some places, they have started elected priests of different castes out of spite. Temple rituals being fucked with is a major red flag.
- Muslim areas are no go zones by default as any act of violence by Hindus, upper castes rather is enough to get the state to fuck you up forever. Bengal and Assam are heading for Muslim majority by 2040 due to the porous border that the country does nothing about.
- Literally every single religious group gets explicit minority rights besides one, guess what that group is. This also means that Hindus cannot have exclusively Hindu places the same way others can.
- Hindu festivals are not safe either. The supreme court bans the explicit use of firecrackers during Diwali, even though the crackers are an integral part of the religion, not the same as having them in during American independence day. There are religious connotations.
- The waqf act is a good thing to read for the uninitiated to get an idea about preferential treatment. You can't even have a scheme like CAA that helps minorities from our low born neighbors. The protests agaisnt that were huge.
- Every scripture is holy and beyond criticism except the for Hindu ones. Quran burnings result in mass scale violence 10/10 times whilst there are no consequences for doing the same against Hindu one. People burn the manu smriti, call Ram and Krishna names and even write books that win prizes like one literally named cuckold. This was written by a Marathi and won a national prize.
- Allowing people to blast Islamic prayer despite it being illegal, something I've spoken about before.
Some things from the top of my head, there are plenty of much worse things besides these. Upper caste males are seen as the root of all evil who exist to pay nearly all taxes, make up nearly all of the military, nearly all of the achievements of the place, both past and present.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
5hr ago
how does that match with the Enlightenment, French Revolution, and Communist revolutions? Some of those were pretty pro-natal at some points. I guess China's a pretty stand-out example for fertility control, though...
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
5hr ago
apologies, I thought it was well-known enough to not need the attribution. Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago
Owlify
5hr ago
I also want to know this, because I haven't seen any. Maybe he is just referring to practices that motivate Hindutva activists like conversion, "love jihad", etc. and opposition to religious laws, and mixing of government and religion as part of secularism?
cjet79
5hr ago
I am willing and happy to read AI generated stories.
I haven't tried too hard to generate my own. But if one of the stories I was following on Royal road turned out to be an AI story I wouldn't be unhappy except that most of them have a release schedule that is clearly within human abilities, and I'd want more. Once they got revealed I'd expect them to stop sandbagging it.
My limited attempts to get AI to generate interesting stories have kinda sucked. In one instance it took my writing and declared it too adult and I legitimately wasn't sure what the hell it was talking about. Those were early chatgpt days though.
I still have this unverified sense that AI can produce pop, but not jazz. Meaning average mass appealing stuff, but weird individuality is harder for it to generate.
Christianity isn't so much about 'things being true' but getting into a mindset where 'it doesn't matter if it's true or not, I believe it'. Christian theology is a complete mess because they go in with the answer in mind and then come up with justifications. They just make up all kinds of nonsense about 'free will' requiring everyone to suffer because of a snake and an apple. Or there being a great plan that requires Christians to suffer and get wrecked by huge natural disasters beyond their ability to handle. Omnipotence and benevolence does not require there to be random earthquakes and tsunamis that destroy you, it's pure cope to think that there's a plan behind it all or that 'this is the best of all possible worlds'. Theologians have spent thousands if not millions of man-years justifying this stuff but still hard-lose to the Epicurean argument because there is no satisfactory answer.
OK, you can be perfectly happy as a Christian ignoring these abstract issues and have a decent life which is better than can be said for many modern ideologies. Thousands of years have been spent turning the silliness into metaphors and capitalizing on the strengths, rationalizing and streamlining the religion.
But all that is ironically enough built on a foundation of sand. Once people realize that the astronomy and history is all wrong, the philosophy is silly, the predictions are wrong, the blankslatism and universal equality of iron-age institution-building isn't so relevant given modern technologies and culture... they also move on from the good elements of Christianity, the prohibition on incest and the well-functioning family structures. The solution is not to return to Christianity but to move on and do the hard work of getting ideology that actually fits with reality. This is extremely difficult and dangerous work but necessary nonetheless.
yunyun333
5hr ago
You'll be forgiven if I take a Reddit source (which itself sources to scholarly works from between 15 and 20 years ago to represent the modern academic consensus) with a grain of salt. I'm not sure that it's wrong, necessarily, but 2009 was a long time ago.
Biblical scholarship has been a thing for hundreds of years, and the Bible isn't getting many updates. This is not a particularly dynamic field, so I think sources from 2004 are fine in this regard. You can pick up just about any introductory new testament textbook or scholarly commentary and find the same view. It's not controversial like, say, the authorship of the pastoral epistles. Here's what, for example. RT France has to say about it in his commentary:
Jesus’ condemnation of ‘this generation’ is a prominent theme in Matthew; see, apart from this passage, 11:16-19; 16:4; 17:17; 24:34, and especially 23:29-36, which shows that it refers to his contemporaries, not just Jews or men in general, as those in whom Israel's age-long rebellion has culminated, and on whom judgment must therefore fall.
Celestial-body-NOS
🟦 'We have a golden rule: "Mind your own damn business!"'🍞🌹
5hr ago
Most of those are "little 8 year old Timmy has cancer" not "CW grifting".
I regard both of these as examples of grifting.
Does that include the cases in which they actually do need the money to pay Timmy's medical bills?
If so, what, in your opinion, is the ethical path for Timmy's parents?
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
5hr ago
I think there are good aspects to Asian schools that we could bring in, though perhaps not to the extreme that those schools go to.
I think first of all, as a culture, we must start taking academic achievement much more seriously. America doesn’t take education seriously, and instead tends to be rather casual about tge project. And the result is that almost half of all American adults cannot read on an eighth grade level. Mathematics and science fair no better. Because of this, we’re generally stuck when it comes to innovative ideas and deep thinking in philosophy or the arts. If we took school and education as seriously as we take sports, with high achievement being celebrated and rewarded.
But the other thing that makes it work is the tracking. Not every kid who graduates goes to tge same “university to office job” track. If you haven’t earned the grades and done the work, you will go to lower colleges, trade schools, or vocational programs. This not only reduces the competition for entry level positions for college graduates, but ensures that every group ends up with a skil they can use to support themselves.
Most of the actual problems come from taking the system to extremes. Over competing in sports leads to 13 year old kids needing Tommy John’s surgery. To much competition in academics makes people miserable. Neither is an indictment of those activities or those who take them seriously. If rules are put in place to keep the competition sane, competition is generally good for people and drives them to do better. The alternative is underachieving with all the problems that come from that.
ChickenOverlord
5hr ago
Or John still being alive, which is the Latter-day Saint (Mormon) view.
Gaashk
5hr ago
I am not a stay at home wife, but both husband and I have tried it out, and it is not significantly easier than paid work, and we're both more prone to depression when house parenting than most jobs we've had.
Shrike
6hr ago
I'd like to get a bit more blow-by-blow of how you think preterism resolves Matthew 24.
gattsuru
6hr ago
VHB specifically, I've volunteered for FIRST FRC a lot, and it's one of the go-to adhesives in that realm (and most teams get free spools of it), so I've gotten a lot of hands-on experience.
WS2812s, I ran a few different STEM outreach projects using them. They're great as a way to teach and show for loops in physical space, but the constraints are very easy to run into, even with Adafruit's documentation.
Circuit assembly work in general has just been a hobby. I think it's a really important skillset, but also one that's very badly underserved by mainstream college training courses.
Hindutva isn't the marauding ideology that people think it is. Both sides serve people porpoganda that helps their cause. Pakistan casually avoids telling its people how badly it lost every war it ever fought whilst Indian media currently is refusing to talk about the civilian deaths in Poonch.
Anyone who thinks Hindutva is pro Hindu or competent is unaware of what's beaneth the surface.
Pakistan can't beat India in a war, as of now. Despite the air casualties, the difference between spending, equipment, people, geography make this a terrible deal for them. China, which actually has a good military doesn't care about wars as much because the Chinese would rather sell things to India and be happy. Pakistan needs skirmishes as India being the mythical anti Muslim boogeyman is the only way to justify it's own existence.
Wars are bad, I don't want Indian causalities. The government should let the soldiers do as they see fit with Kashmiri Muslims, their stupidity should not cause a war.
All of these lowlifes get training inside Pakistan. In my original post about this, I stated that the bulk of the blame should go to Kashmiri Muslims, the remaining is with Pakistan. To them any Hindu lives lost is good. Low borns of the worst kind.
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