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atokenliberal6D_4
Defender of Western Culture
1d ago
Right, so the comparison to the woke needs more justification (I'm sorry for the repetitiveness I've made this point before to you in the past, but I think there's some new aspects).
Most people I talk to in person who would describe themselves as woke seem to actually agree with me on at least the thing I called "individualism". Their belief is rather that the world is so far from achieving this that we have to do extremely drastic things in response. When they make mistakes, their mistakes are factual---that their extreme remedy is going to make the situation better than the status quo. These mistakes are not that hard to correct---no getting rid of standardized tests won't help because every other measure is even more skewed towards the rich, etc. In everyday life, I've found it very easy to argue/convince very woke people on most concrete policy issues relating to "individualism".
"Meritocracy" is harder, seemingly because the very woke that I know don't see its need---we already have enough, why do we need growth, why does it matter that jobs are done well, etc. However, in cases like medicine where you can argue that we don't already have enough you can argue in the same way. The "we already have enough" is also not so hard to argue against by just having them look up global GDP/capita and speculate on what sort of lifestyle that allows in comparison to what they're used to.
Conversely, a hypothetical group that actually accepts the ancestry-is-paramount interpretation of JD Vance's statement just disagrees on these values completely. There's no resolution to be had here.
Anyways, this is all theory. Since January, we can see how the comparison worked out in practice. I think even the worst 2020 wokeness was better for getting skilled people into positions in the US than the attacks on skilled immigrants from the Trump administration---the stories like this that keep coming out every few weeks and the chilling effect they create.
HereAndGone
1d ago
May you all live under the same conditions as the benign and beneficent rule of the IDF. After all, you're not trouble-makers so you'll be fine, won't you?
I suddenly feel a need for the cursing psalms.
Psalm 10
10 Why, O Lord, do you stand far away?
Why do you hide yourself in times of trouble?
2 In arrogance the wicked hotly pursue the poor;
let them be caught in the schemes that they have devised.
3 For the wicked boasts of the desires of his soul,
and the one greedy for gain curses[a] and renounces the Lord.
4 In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him;
all his thoughts are, “There is no God.”
5 His ways prosper at all times;
your judgments are on high, out of his sight;
as for all his foes, he puffs at them.
6 He says in his heart, “I shall not be moved;
throughout all generations I shall not meet adversity.”
7 His mouth is filled with cursing and deceit and oppression;
under his tongue are mischief and iniquity.
8 He sits in ambush in the villages;
in hiding places he murders the innocent.
His eyes stealthily watch for the helpless;
9 he lurks in ambush like a lion in his thicket;
he lurks that he may seize the poor;
he seizes the poor when he draws him into his net.
10 The helpless are crushed, sink down,
and fall by his might.
11 He says in his heart, “God has forgotten,
he has hidden his face, he will never see it.”
12 Arise, O Lord; O God, lift up your hand;
forget not the afflicted.
13 Why does the wicked renounce God
and say in his heart, “You will not call to account”?
14 But you do see, for you note mischief and vexation,
that you may take it into your hands;
to you the helpless commits himself;
you have been the helper of the fatherless.
15 Break the arm of the wicked and evildoer;
call his wickedness to account till you find none.
16 The Lord is king forever and ever;
the nations perish from his land.
17 O Lord, you hear the desire of the afflicted;
you will strengthen their heart; you will incline your ear
18 to do justice to the fatherless and the oppressed,
so that man who is of the earth may strike terror no more.
ZanarkandAbesFan
2d ago
There are a lot of truly baffling statements in this post (Israel controls law enforcement in Gaza?), but I'll focus only on the most bizarre one:
They effectively have a monopoly on the legitimate use of force.
Oct 7th, and the war against Israel that Hamas has redirected all resources in Gaza towards, represent an Israeli monopoly on the use of force in Gaza. Right.
HereAndGone
2d ago
I don't believe the Israelis. After all this time, I don't trust them, I don't think they're honest, and how they are cracking down (not) on the [settlers](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c776x78517po0 who are literally and not metaphorically shooting people reveals their actual preferences, not what they're saying.
I'm going to light my hair on fire here, but Israel is imitating how Germany decided to deal with its 'Jewish problem': can we get any foreign country to take them off our hands? No, nobody wants a bunch of these guys because they are trash? Okay, let's solve this by taking their property, confining them in sequestered areas, and then shipping them off to camps - for their own protection, of course.
HereAndGone
2d ago
You know, right now I'm listening to the news on the radio and it's another interview with someone about what is happening in Gaza.
I have two options:
(1) Everyone in the world is a lying liar who loves Hamas and wants to obliterate Israel. There is no starvation, no Israeli blockades, and the hard-core Zionists who want an ethnically Jewish state for an ethnically Jewish people are just lined up waiting with bouquets and gift baskets to hand over to the Palestinians once they take control of Gaza.
(2) Maybe, just possibly maybe, the IDF are fudging the truth about what they are doing and the Israeli government is being hands-off in hopes that the problem will solve itself - no need for a Palestinian state when there are no more Palestinians (be that 'encouraged forcefully to emigrate to other countries or dead of famine and disease').
I think Hamas are terrible and should disappear if at all possible. But when people are dying, I don't give a flying fuck about their politics. Even the most obnoxious hair-dyed queer tranny activist, if they were literally starving to death, I'd say "help them" and not "hur-dur, they should have picked the right side in the political fight". Stop people dying of starvation first, worry about rooting out the terrorists second.
What I'm reading on here is awfully like all the commentary about problems in red states, with gleeful gloating about "natural disaster/economic crash serves them right for voting for Trump".
ThomasdelVasto
Κύριε, ποίησόν με ὄργανον τῆς ἀγάπης σου
2d ago
Thanks! Wow this is fun. Who knew.
You can apply/remove/shift the ashes of war whenever you want to, but you can only have the ash applied to one weapon at a time. Ashes of war can be duplicated if you find the right item though.
ToaKraka
Dislikes you
2d ago
Click on the link that looks like a speech bubble near the upper right corner of the page.
ThomasdelVasto
Κύριε, ποίησόν με ὄργανον τῆς ἀγάπης σου
2d ago
No I don't read every comment just skim the things I'm interested in. Some weeks there are barely any posts I want to participate in, some weeks it's every post.
Personally I like that the content here isn't never-ending.
TowardsPanna
2d ago
All riiiight! :)
That sounds like what I want. Thanks!
Should I put it on my Lordsworn's sword? I've already smithed it to +2, but I don't know whether I'll find a better sword soon and should thus save the ash of war for the next one...?
ThomasdelVasto
Κύριε, ποίησόν με ὄργανον τῆς ἀγάπης σου
2d ago
Holy crap I had no idea this was a thing. Thanks for sharing. How do you get back here without this link?
If Vance wanted to talk about the second case where the groups start with equal claims, he could've said something like (I'm trying to make this rhetorically charged in the same way) "church-going, law-abiding patriots have a hell of a lot more claim over America than ungrateful socialists who say they hate our country". Specifically focusing on "people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War" really makes it that Group R being privileged just based on their ancestry is a strong part of his statement.
Maybe this is too much psychoanalysis, or maybe I'm falling for some rhetorical game where Vance is baiting responses by purposefully saying something in a more controversial way then he needs to (I mean, focusing on the Civil war without specifying which side instead of the Revolutionary war definitely seems to be something like this), but my gut feel is that going out of the way to bring up such a specific thing as ancestry means that this is actually what he was trying to say.
So I honestly don't know anymore what's close to the modal Republican worldview (or more relevantly, what vision the current Republican party pushes for during the current and future times it has power). Figuring this out was the main reason for the post since I really think this forum gives a good sense of the intellectual arguments that eventually work their way down to driving Republican goals.
CertainlyWorse
No one is coming. It's just you.
2d ago
Without access to the specification, contracts, logs and maintenance records, there is no real way to know.
Eupraxia
Of all words spoken, all things read / most true was that which went unsaid
2d ago
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It's not a death blow to the redpill or anything, but the article does dispel maximalist claims that redpill types tend to imply about the reciprocity of men and women's attitudes towards each other (e.g. "women desire dominant men who are their social superiors, thus masculine men reject uppity girlbosses for submissive women who know their place"). In truth, women have a much stronger preference for dominance than men have for submissiveness. (source)
More generally, redpillers/antifeminists tend to have a myopic focus on the utility of a woman within the "trad" marriage script (cooking/cleaning/birthing/boning), to the exclusion of more general or "unfeminine" traits/considerations that might be desirable in a wife[1]. It won't make your dick hard to know that your wife has an MBA, but an intelligent and educated woman has far more potential as a proper life partner than a meek and servile tradwife.
[1] See Primaprimaprima below for further commentary in this direction.
RenOS
something is wrong
2d ago
I know that it's hard, but this imo really needs to be changed. It's bad enough for progressives to be regularly downvoted (even if I may disagree as well) but probably unavoidable, but longtime posters constantly getting filtered without mod action has to be supremely frustrating and I probably would also leave eventually.
MadMonzer
Pedo! Pedo! Pedo! Out! Out! Out!
2d ago
he Americans could have stuck around and stamped them into oblivion
My understanding is that the Viet Cong was stamped into oblivion in the aftermath of Tet, and American was defeated by the North Vietnamese, who didn't actually need the Viet Cong given the complete failure to build a South Vietnam that the South Vietnamese were willing to fight for.
RenOS
something is wrong
2d ago
Ah yes forgot about that! That's a great skill as well. It also gives a lingering buff which can be quite substantial. Best on weapons with fast attack speed, since the buff is a static 90 holy dmg.
Corvos
2d ago
You can find the Sacred Blade ash of war in Limgrave. It’ll give you faith scaling and a medium range slash/wave attack for 19fp.
There is a reason people call Limgrave the longest tutorial in any game. Your options open up a lot once you leave.
But the heavy crossbow can drop from the crossbow wielding mobs in Limgrave, there is a short bow for sale in southwest Limgrave, and there is the light crossbow for sale on the weeping peninsula, which is also reachable quite early.
I can also give you directions on how to get the clawmark seal, which can also be done early. But that might be considered a spoiler.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2d ago
Well, I mean, it seems to me that we have a situation where the official account (unaided suicide) is mostly plausible
Yeah, but so what? So is his assassination. It was plausible for Imane Khelif to be female, and it was plausible for him to be male. It was plausible for COVID to have natural origin, and it's pkausible for it to have leaked from a lab... Plenty of cases have more than one scenario, and it's ridiculous to assume that in the presence of multiple plausible scenarios, we should side with the one being out forward by our institutions.
The case for it aided suicide or murder are that circumstances around unaided suicide seem kind of weird to observers. That's not a whole lot to build a case on.
Yes it is, unless you can present stronger evidence. The evidence for his suicide is just as circumstantial.
What's the evidence that's missing
Jeffrey Epstein.
TowardsPanna
2d ago
Unless I'm forgetting something, I haven't found a single bow as loot or for sale. I've found three merchants.
At some point, it's not a question of amassing evidence. It's a matter of actually analyzing that evidence, putting it into context, and making reasonable judgements about it.
I'm not an expert on the prison system, and I'm guessing no one else here is either. So I have no idea how common it is for prisoners to commit suicide, especially under extreme cases like Epstein. I also have no idea how common it is for cameras to fail or for guards to fall asleep on the job, or any of the other fuckups. It does seem to have been quite the fuckup, but then I'm also guessing that real-life prison is not like the super-prisons shown in hollywood movies- it seems like a really boring job and I could imagine the guards just constantly falling asleep/messing things up while they're sitting around all day watching nothing happen.
for context, i'm currently staying in a building that's supposed to have 24/7 doorman/security guard at the front door. But if you come in at night it's really not hard to find them asleep and just walk past them. Sometimes in the day, too.
I could be convinced otherwise! I'd just like to see a breakdown from an actual expert, showing what normal conditions are like in prison, and how unlikely it was for things to go wrong like this. I don't want to wade through thousands of hours of camera footage myself because I have better things to do. If that makes me a sheep who can't think for myself, so be it.
Soteriologian
2d ago
I get what you’re trying to say, but the evidence is overwhelming.
Take Ms Maxwell: she sat around Burgerstan for a year while Epstein was arrested and dragged through the legal system, all while having citizenship in France—a country that has refused to extradite citizens to the US on this very matter. How irredeemably stupid do you have to be to have citizenship in a sanctuary state and just sit around on your ass anyway waiting to be arrested?
Whatever this cabal may be, it’s not an elite pedophile cabal. It’s at best a retarded pedophile cabal. And probably not even that: it seems more like a 17-and-364 days larping-as-a-pedophile cabal. Alan Dershowitz supposedly even kept his underwear on. Can you imagine the blackmail? It’s probably some washed up widow from Latin America whose husband died in a cartel spat lying about her age as she gives this crusty old prune a massage with all the enthusiasm of doing the dishes after Christmas dinner (while Dershowitz giddily thinks this is the hottest thing ever). Now that is blackmail!
And most of the people involved aren’t even blackmail-able in any sensible way. Take Clinton—his involvement seems to have been after his presidency. The fuck are they gonna do, blackmail someone who isn’t even in a position of political power anymore? And what of Dershowitz. He’s a Jew. Is Israel blackmailing the Jews into being Jewish?
All of this is so, so stupid. The reality is rightoid conspiritards fantasize about being ruled by a pedophile cabal because of their latent ancestral memory of living under the Catholic Church—a continent-ruling boylover cabal that was on a mission to breed the world’s most beautiful race. The plan was okay for a while, until it worked too well and Mewtwo escaped his cage, rather confused and devoid of purpose, but nonetheless extremely powerful. Thus the whole scheme came crashing down, and the Catholic Church is now so degraded it doesn’t even remember its own secrets: they have an American pope wearing an Apple Watch at mass.
This is the power of the retard hypothesis.
OliveTapenade
2d ago
Well, I mean, it seems to me that we have a situation where the official account (unaided suicide) is mostly plausible, there's a minimum-EDKH that's plausible and would be hidden (aided suicide), and then there's a maximum-EDKH that's implausible and is unlikely to be successfully hidden (murder by a third party).
The case for it aided suicide or murder are that circumstances around unaided suicide seem kind of weird to observers. That's not a whole lot to build a case on.
At any rate, my position is that unaided suicide is most likely, aided suicide is reasonably possible, and murder is sufficiently unlikely that we can rule it out; and that the difference between unaided and aided suicide is unimportant.
When you see someone destroying evidence, you should assume that said evidence was important by default. But if you want a theory, it's that his clients likely included many powerful and influential people, who need to be punished.
I don't actually see anyone destroying evidence, though. What's the evidence that's missing?
I was struck recently by this article talking about how the underlying anxieties are more or less true in both the conspiracy and non conspiracy versions (powerful financiers getting away with stuff and having undue influence, etc) but here is how it phrased what it called the two notable holes:
I mean, isn’t it a lot easier and less suspicious if he dies earlier? Aside from what I view to be some major logistical problems with a quick three minute in and out strangulation, though I admit I’m not well read in to the nitty-gritty. And:
Epstein literally attempted suicide a few weeks before, and actually did right about when he was denied bail and it became increasingly clear that the best case scenario for him still would involve lengthy amounts of jail time. He’s a billionaire, used to much nicer things, and was not in a nice prison. As far as suicidal logic goes, that seems pretty normal? And incompetence by prison guards is definitely my base expectation. Shit is boring, pay is often bad, and the job doesn’t attract the best.
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