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Ioper
1m ago
Also, is the American Music industry that disproportionately successful? Especially compared to Britain. For something like movies America clearly is dominant but for music it doesn't feel as clear to me.
Perhaps things have become lopsided since I greatly cut down on listening to new music some time in the early 10s.
BlindDeafRat
1m ago
The idea is great, being open your ideas being challenged in public, and being able to argue for them. But in practice, that's not how it goes. Whoever talks faster, and is more skilled with "debating" has a clear advantage, regardless of whether they actually believe in their ideas or not. Regardless of whether their ideas are good. As long as you can present them as being such, you can have the upper hand.
I didn't know a thing about Charlie Kirk before he got shot. But you have a similar example in the streamer Destiny. He does the same thing, primarily does online "debates", but he's also visited a few colleges. But in the end, it's literally his job, it's his life mission to do this, he knows his subject well, he knows the tricks of the trade, he has great control of his emotions, all of which give him a huge advantage over anyone else. If you pit him and some random college student up against him, the student will almost certainly look worse by the end.
The same can happen even with people more educated than him.
zeke5123a
2m ago
Agreed—based on the leftist avowed view they ought to celebrate this murder. Which is why, similar to when Trump was shot, it’s clear that many left leaders don’t truly believe the fascist claims they make. And of course it’s bullshit. Charlie wasn’t a fascist. Trump is at “worst” a very poor man’s Pinochet.
Personally I long for a Salazar (only way to fix our country) but won’t get one.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
4m ago
Kirk apparently said the following:
I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I've thought about it. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.
This is, in fact, as far as I've understood, a very, very radical view in the American political sphere on a key issue, one which some might call the defining issue of American politics. It's not the one that would have been shared by the Trump admin: when Trump issued his anti-affirmative-action EO, the framing was that CRA was good and that the things he was banning were going against its spirit. And as the quote says, Kirk himself calls it a radical opinion!
Of course, for many or even most of the leftists celebrating Kirk's demise, the point is not any of the race-based stuff but his strong Christian conservative opinions, such as opposing abortion including for rape and underaged kids, but the people doing that stuff do not do it because they believe Kirk to be a moderate.
I've also seen a number of far right types on social media saying that Kirk was a moderate when he started his career but had been evolving rightwards towards being "/ourguy/" before his tragic death.
MadMonzer
Epstein Files must have done something really awful for so many libs to want him released.
5m ago
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Listen to American music, watch American shows, go see American films - obviously you're going to play American games as well
Games is the software sub-sector where the US is least dominant (Nintendo exists, for example), so this isn't the story.
Walterodim
Only equals speak the truth, that’s my thought on’t
9m ago
Have a sentimental, slightly ritual appearance that marks a certain time in my life. I would enjoy it (or think I would) for the same reason that I keep various mementos from my life that have no practical use.
nomenym
10m ago
I can definitely feel murderous towards my outgroup, but my feelings about it are grim and sad that it has to be this way. I support the death penalty, and I sincerely think that some political leaders deserve to be executed for treason, but the number of people relishing the murder of Charlie Kirk with such glee is disturbing. The woke mind virus is a scary thing, but it does seem that for many people the fever broke with this event.
Walterodim
Only equals speak the truth, that’s my thought on’t
11m ago
I actually do see my own body pretty frequently, yes.
daguerrean
12m ago
I much prefer the types of Fuentes or, better yet, Sam "Hitler's Top Guy" Hyde to those disingenuous establishment figures
These guys are even less sincere. Just because you’re fringe doesn’t magically make you more earnest. These guys are just performing characters even less convincingly
07mk
13m ago
The way I see a situation of X and Y there is that a Group Xer has an obligation to think about it the latter way, and a Group Yet has an obligation to think about it the former way, at least if getting at the truth is a priority. Because, as you pointed out, the pattern shows that such people will almost always be biased in the other way, anyone in that situation who trusts his base judgment on this is untrustworthy as a seeker of truth.
A lot of the conversation, I've noticed, has to do with trying to label that 47% that's not peaceful but not violent. Too many people try to cast advocacy for violence as a form of violence when, of course, advocacy for something isn't the same as that thing. But it could be morally just as bad to call for violence as it is to commit violence. Could, but also maybe not. Which is inconvenient if you want to claim half your outgroup are bloodthirsty monsters. So a Group Yer can't afford to show nuance around words and violence and must elide between the two. OTOH, a Group Xer will wiggle and wiggle and wiggle until the wiggle room is a gap that you could pass the Milky Way through. They'll split every hair, pick every nit, look at everything in every possible angle and degree of squinting until they can convince themselves that these people are justified in calling for violence or condoning violence in this particular case (which is every case).
Pulpachair
13m ago
Does supplying certain “less bad” drug cartels with arms and intelligence count? I would think so.
zeke5123a
13m ago
That seems more likely an explanation after the fact; not one during the moment. If my timeline is right, they didn’t know if Kirk was dead.
These are the same Dems that booed a kid with cancer. Also, the story doesn’t hold—did the republicans block attempts to hold prayer for the Colorado kids? For a fallen member? Why would this hill be the one you want to fight on? My guess is again the Dems realized afterwards how ghoulish it was and they made some shit up.
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
15m ago
But "the morality of a child" is, I think, putting it too kindly.
Anyone who claims Kirk had the morality of a child has never had a child. Because the morality of a child is, actually, "You hurt my feelings, now I get to maximally hurt you back in an unregulated temper tantrum". Kirk, while a partisan, still advocated for clear, uniformly enforced rules and individual rights, which trends closer to the higher stages of Kohlberg's stages of moral development. If you compare this to the morality of a child, it's just more word games to gaslight victims about the nature of their enemy, while blood libeling them into somehow deserving it.
zeke5123a
17m ago
Again their caucus shouted down an attempt for a moment of prayer. That was their visceral reaction. Sure people like AOC had a more polished answer after the fact (though used it to support apparently complete gun control). But…I think it’s bullshit.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
19m ago
...and American dominance in software is downstream, among other things, from the huge national security state investment campaign obviously connected to tech industry right from the start in various ways, as well as general American cultural dominance (Listen to American music, watch American shows, go see American films - obviously you're going to play American games as well, and how much of social media is downstream from already-existing forums culture created in large part by games forums? And that is just one, probably not even the most important, example of building on the existing that I've thought about a lot recently).
One of EU's tragedies is trusting on regulatory state to make up for driving down the elements of you-can-just-do-things state, ie the sort of direct state intervention to bolster business that America has always done in spades while hypocritically preaching laissez faire to the rest of the world. (Of course there has been direct state intervention in the EU and by EU too, but building bridges in Slovakia, while undoubtedly important for Slovaks, is probably less effective in staying globally competitive).
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
21m ago
What are you going to do differently?
Taking proactive steps for my personal and collective defense.
No I will not elaborate.
coffee_enjoyer
☕️
26m ago
There are a few reasons why the conflict isn’t a black and white issue: that it began decades ago with clearly illegal acts like the theft of sovereign land in the West Bank and the killing of civilians and the detainment of Palestinians without due process; the question of proportionality, eg that 9/11 did not morally permit America to destroy every dwelling in the regions of the ME with Islamist leanings; and finally that the evidence suggests Hamas intended to take most of the civilians hostage, but Israel blew up their own civilians being transported back in cars by Hamas in accordance with their military doctrine known as the Hannibal Directive.
Regarding the aforementioned doctrine, I don’t know why it is never brought up, but wikipedia has a decent section on it. If 70 cars were destroyed returning to Gaza, then if each car was maximally filled with hostages, that’s at least 420 civilians. But it’s also mentioned that hundreds of burned out cars were buried, so this may involve 1000 civilians. Some unspecified number of Israeli civilians were killed by Israeli helicopters at the festival; some unspecified number of civilians in cars were shot by tanks, and then by an unmanned assault drone; and then some unspecified number of homes filled with civilians were fired upon by Israelis, eg in Kibbutz Be'eri by a tank crew.
Australia's ABC News covers the use of the Hannibal Directive.[390] The report quotes former Israeli officer, Air Force Colonel Nof Erez as saying: "This was a mass Hannibal. It was tons and tons of openings in the fence, and thousands of people in every type of vehicle, some with hostages and some without." The report also notes Tank officers confirming their interpretation of the Directive, firing on vehicles returning to Gaza, potentially with Israelis on board
As a thought experiment, we can paint the conflict as black and white in the other direction: a people under oppression and persecution for decades attempted to gather hostages to free themselves through negotiation, but the oppressive country slew their own civilians to prevent this from happening, and then proceeded to launch a genocidal war. But this would similarly lack the complexity with which adults should approach difficult issues.
daguerrean
27m ago
If any male I knew got any cosmetic surgery I would think much less of him. Doing such a thing is just unseemly and womanly.
I’m assuming you must be very young and single?
daguerrean
30m ago
What is the point of a tattoo that is not intended to appeal to others? Do you intend to sit and stare at your own thigh?
Ioper
30m ago
Inversely, it feels like the "tech industry" is eating American software and other areas of the economy are often left in sort of an software desert. We come in as Europeans and think we have garbage solution and surely noone in America could ever want our garbage, only to discover that it's somehow, unfathomably, even worse in the US.
Obviously the tech industry is fabulously financially successful but sometimes I wonder if it would be better if it was a bit less profitable so American software talent could be spread a bit more evenly throughout the economy.
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
34m ago
I have no idea what it would even mean for such a tattoo to "not work".
Neither do I. What is the tattoo meant to do for you?
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
41m ago
Sorry I can't tell if this is meant ironically or not.
Good eye.
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