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Texas's new required school reading list includes stories from the Bible
Texas is the first state to establish such a list, as others generally give wide latitude to school districts and boards to select their own texts.
There are fourteen stories, listed in order of grade level: Jonah and the Whale (Jonah 1:1-5, 10-17, 2:10), David and Goliath (excerpt from The Children's Book of Heroes), Daniel and the Lion's Den (Children's Adapted Version), The Necessity of Humility (Luke 14:7-11), Moses (Exodus 3, 14), Do Not Be Anxious (Matthew 6:25-34), The Shepherd's Psalm (Psalms 23), Beatitudes (Matthew 5:1-12), To Everything There is a Season (Ecclesiastes 3), Lamentations 3, The Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32), Job (Job 1-7, 11, 14, 19, 28, 38-42), Adam and Eve (Genesis 2-3), The Definition of Love (1 Corinthians 13).
They also select a variety of translations: the New International Reader's Version, which is for a third-grade reading level, the English Standard Version, the King James Version, and the Jewish Publication Society. The ESV/KJV have their own history as evangelical texts; this is why there are so many parochial Catholic schools, though it's doubtful whether modern Catholics (who make up ~22% of Texas's population) care as much.
Teaching Biblical stories as cultural or historical texts does not violate the 1st amendment. Certainly the Bible is the most influential book in Western thought and has relevance to any serious study of literature and history. That being said, certain passages err on the side of theology and perhaps should be avoided outside of a comparative religion course. And some atheists will be disappointed that the more controversial passages have been excluded.
From this it sounds like they will miss all the nuance. Luther rendered it as „Liebe,” but King James Version gave „charity.” The greek is agape which at the time seemed to mean not love as an emotion, but the condition of being in a pact of mutual cooperation with someone else. It relates most strongly to the requirement to „be in Christ,” that is, in a covenant or pact with Christ. One of the most major statements of Christ's divinity is when the Father uses this verb to state what is translated as „he is my beloved” in King James. It actually meant the Son was „in” the Father, as in a covenant.
Anyway, agape was not an emotional state but rather a perpetual action by a subject which requires an object. The object is not stated explicitly in 1 Cor 13, but it is implied that it is Christ or the church, not just a general exhortation to be a hippy. This is important because it has rebellious undertones that are impossible to extricate without adulterating the meaning. The same verb is used in Matthew 6:24 which states no man can serve two masters. Essentially the point is Paul is telling them they must place Christ above the state and money or their deeds are worthless. This has real implications beyond a feeling. Applied today, it's to tell the children that they must not be loyal to the government of the United States or its constitution or its capitalist market, but rather must donate their lives in the service of furthering the will of Jesus Christ. Paul is saying that any modern church that tolerates laws which diverge from the will of Christ are illegitimate and if one does not believe and indeed act on this, one's whole church is futile, there will be no heavenly reward and one's faith is entirely nullified.
I am sure they are not teaching that their own government is an infidel state for a litany of laws that mean it must be regarded as a occupying foreign nation which merely is payed its taxes but nothing more, as actual Christians treated the Roman state. So therefore they are adulterating the passage and failing to teach its true meaning.
That's kind of my problem with this plan in a nutshell. The bible is a tough read. You've got this very old-fashioned text, which probably began as some sort of oral history, only later written down by various different people at different times. Then that gets translated from paleo-Hebrew to Aramaic to Greek to Latin and then finally to English. On top of which, a lot of it is just plain confusing, with complex metaphors and moral lessons that only made sense from the point of view of a bronze age tribe living a harsh life. From my point of view as an atheist, some of it is fascinating and great reading, but some other parts are a horrible mess or just plain boring. I don't think it should be used to teach kids reading, because they're inevitably going to misunderstand it. I don't even trust most high school teachers to properly understand it- there's a good reason that theology and bible study is its own unique discipline.
Yes, a truly academic approach is classicist in nature. The students should be taught Ancient Greek and should read widely the texts written in it, and they should compare the New Testament and its actual language to the meanings found in other writings using that language around the time. The translations into modern languages are bad, as are most translation. Even English translations of Nietzsche are terrible, and he's modern and wrote in a living language still used by multiple nations. The main English translator of him turned his bioessentialism into self help garbage, what do you think they did to the Bible over the course of thousands of years then?
Kids spend so much time in school and language learning is accessible enough by little kids that I don't see why they don't do this, other than simply being excessively stupid as people by their nature. Even that probably does not explain it, because there are 90 IQ Muslim countries that teach children French, classical Arabic, modern standard Arabic, and an Arabic dialect. And then many of these people end up speaking English or German as adults too, to emigrate.
Very few 90 IQ students are learning French, Modern Standard Arabic, and classical Arabic. "An Arabic dialect" is their native language. MSA is a formal version they learn in grammar class and use nowhere else, and classical Arabic they only get from the Quran and most don't understand it any better than the average English speaker can follow King James Bible English. A version of French is learned by Arabs in North Africa but usually just enough to kind of get by.
You have an extremely exaggerated idea of how easy it is to become multilingual. And teaching elementary students a useless dead language to satisfy some classicism fetish would be a complete waste of time. They can learn Ancient Greek in college if they have an interest in it (but then you'd probably mock them for studying useless humanities).
I think it takes hundreds of hours, but those hours are themselves easy, unlike math. Such that, young children can complete those hours, whereas they often can't grasp algebra at all, so algebra hours have to wait. The thing about the Muslim countries I refer to is that they don't learn as much about Martin Luther King Jr., the American Revolution, or the reproductive cycle of flowering plants in elementary school while trying to get up to 400 hours of French study. There is a trade off but imo a foreign language is a skill and knowing factoids about history, American or Algerian, is not.
Then why is it that so many students who spend hundreds of hours studying a foreign language in school come out the other end not knowing how to speak them?
Most kids have the capacity to learn a language really easily, because humans are designed to learn to talk. They don't have the capacity to learn two. At best, the second language overwrites the first language and they forget their native tongue (as happens to very young immigrants) or they completely forget the second language once they are no longer required to study it (as happens to millions of American students who take French or Spanish in high school). At worst, they end up speaking a shitty creole of both languages (e.g. Spanglish).
From "The Myth of 'They Weren't Ever Taught…'" by Education Realist:
From "Language is Culture" by Spandrell:
And from "The Numbers Speak: Foreign Language Requirements Are a Waste of Time and Money" by Bryan Caplan:
Because in monolingual countries with a large population, neither the student not the teacher cares enough to have the student come out with a strong grasp of the foreign language on the other end. In countries where getting good at English or another lingua franca is a practical necessity, you better believe a lot of students are coming out with functional language skills despite many of these students having a fraction of the investment rich Anglo countries do.
This doesn't make any sense. While obviously there are physical limits in the extreme, there is no evidence that language acquisition is bottlenecked by storage space of all things - if you have a GeForce 256 and a 100TB SSD obviously storage is not going to be the bottleneck in your system.
As Pigeon says bilingualism is very common globally - the fact that many children don't learn multiple languages comes from a lack of incentives rather than a lack of ability. Many people across South America, continental Europe, Africa, and ex-CJK Asia will at least be conversant in a global lingua franca and a native language out of necessity: e.g the Nordic countries and the Dutch are almost all perfectly bilingual English speakers.
These are indictments against the requirement to learn languages in school, which I agree is useless for unmotivated students, but really this is a general argument against teaching anything in school above basic numeracy and literacy. I broadly agree with Caplan's Case Against Education thesis, but these posts do not support your bailey that secondary language acquisition is not possible or detrimental.
The motte here is that the opportunity costs of language learning are high, which I think is probably correct for English speakers even as a hobbyist polyglot myself, but in the long run everyone is dead anyways. There are much worse and unproductive things that most people do with their lives.
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I don’t think this is accurate. Most Swiss people use more than one language in daily life, something like 25% of India speaks 2+ languages, you have varying degrees of bilingualism for English and Tagalog in the Philippines, standard Thai and the various regional Thai languages (sometimes + a functional grasp on English), and so on. Even East Asian hubs like Tokyo and Seoul and Taipei will have a reasonable amount of people who are bilingual. And of course we have many examples of people here who are bilingual largely or at least in part due to education.
Surely the issue is that most American children don’t naturally find themselves in situations where they would need to speak a second language, and language perhaps rusts more quickly than other skills do.
(I am unsure about the value of formally educating children in a second language, but I want to nitpick a specific claim here.)
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The ease with which children learn languages is exaggerated, but yes, it's easier to learn languages when you are young. It is not "easy." The "passive language-absorbing sponge" theory is not true.
I think you would be dismayed to learn what kids in Muslim countries do spend much of their school hours learning. And while I can guess what you think of Martin Luther King, Jr., I would be dismayed (am dismayed) at American students not being taught about the American Revolution or the reproductive cycle of flowering plants.
Understanding history and being able to relate it to the world we live in is definitely a cognitive skill.
Kids should actually know something about the history of their country and the world. A population ignorant of history and science but which can speak a couple of languages is not a recipe for success.
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Our modern school system cannot handle teaching kids Spanish. They take years of Spanish class and no point can any of them speak Spanish. I don't think they have what it takes to teach ancient Greek.
Maybe it's not the kids, but the teachers. The teachers don't have what it takes to teach linear algebra even though that's pretty accessible to a lot of high school students.
There is no time when everyone learned classical languages in school- because most people didn't go to school.
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