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IGI-111
God was a dream of good government.
3m ago
Why is anyone paying attention to them?
One of the richest men in the world is throwing a scandalous marriage with a classless woman, and you wonder why gossips everywhere are talking about it? The story is basically tailor made for that market. Only Prince Harry's shenanigans could surpass it.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
3m ago
Is it a reasonable requirement to declare that all of society's problems are caused by a group of genetic untermenschen? I feel like asking for another Bukele is at least on-par with it under current conditions, and the latter is quite a bit more humane.
Throwaway05
4m ago
Would you feel more comfortable with this process if we were able to produce date that illustrates that patients admitted with homicidal ideation are equally or more likely to kill someone as felons?
Fundamentally we need to establish what level of problematic behavior disqualifies from gun use. Some amount is clearly appropriate there are people dumb or crazy enough to say "if you let me have a gun I'm going to kill X." Clearly they shouldn't be allowed to. Felons? Stickier not every felon is likely to kill someone but it's a good broad category. You could attack this laterally by making assault on healthcare workers a felony and charging it 100% of the time, but that would be even more overkill - it happens a lot and we try and let it go because a good number of people who do this aren't likely to cause trouble or are likely to cause a minimum of trouble.
While my co-workers (of most non-surgical specialties) are certainly politically motivated at times, and are unlikely to write a letter in support of someone owning guns because they don't believe in that for political reasons....and at the same time they aren't going to abuse the commitment process for political reasons. I could say its because of historical abuses leading to lots of ethic changes on this, I could say its because of the increased lawsuit risk, but realistically a large chunk of it is just because it's so infrequently anything other than intensely obvious (at least outside suicide, suicide risk gets a bit stickier).
Patients who are sick tend to be really fucking sick and unless you've seen it it's hard to understand. Your usual crazy schizophrenic homeless person wandering around on the street was deemed safe to go home. How bad do you think the ones who get dragged in are?
chooky
9m ago
I had bad drywall subs, so I am not sure. Theoretically, a high quality drywall crew would work faster (so not a big cost increase) and cleaner, but drywall is considered shitty entry level work so it is very hard to find a high quality crew.
But basically what happens is that the painters blame the trim (who blame the drywall) or drywall people who blame the framing (which cannot be redone), counting on you and GC to just run out of patience. GCs dont think drywall is real work, so they sub it out without much quality control. Also, at this stage the GC is counting money and will probably try to get some margin by cheaping out on drywall. Results are probably a lot better with new construction than remodel.
IGI-111
God was a dream of good government.
10m ago
To do the El Salvador solution you need a Bukele tier Great Man of History. That's not a reasonable requirement. Take it from someone whose government is tailor made for such a kind of man. They're much harder to find than you'd think.
As it stands, the managerial rulers of the US are so far from having the spine required to tell foreigners to "integrate or fuck off" that they'll let them fly the flags of other countries in violent rebellion and still not consent to crush them. Asking them to do what you want is doomed.
IGI-111
God was a dream of good government.
13m ago
I think you're being dishonest in not recognizing that traditional norms around sex also prohibit this behavior. Kings had to turn schismatic or murderous before they could do what Bezos did there.
FtttG
18m ago
Now that the 55- year-old bride Sánchez
Wow, I thought she was like a decade younger. Fair play, I suppose.
I haven't watched any of it myself
Thank god. I understand watching the British royal wedding (well... okay, actually I don't), but come the f- on, these aren't the royals. Why is anyone paying attention to them?
Male sexuality is a lot simpler than female sexuality.
Ah, a good thesis for the Quarterly Journal Of No Shit, Sherlock. Yes, Bezos Bad, and like I said before it's not all the women's fault.
Throwaway05
23m ago
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Our judicial system is predicated on people not actually going to trial these days. Are you willing to accept the increased cost in taxes to do this, or more likely - a coercive structure that would necessitate a "plea deal equivalent." If so how much financial drain on society is acceptable to you?
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What is special about jury trials over other processes? If someone does a bench trial is that acceptable? If a judge rubber stamps a psychiatrists recommendation (the likely outcome of a push for a trial process) is that acceptable? How do you want this to actually happen? This is not a simple logistical thing you are suggesting.
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Being involuntarily committed requires some level of poor judgement and insight and lack of responsibility. Sometimes it is obviously disqualifying "I'm going to kill my neighbor doc" sometimes it is debatably disqualifying "I'm going to kill myself doc" (as feelings on suicide are complicated, even if our society has staked a view on this topic) sometimes it is something more like "I need you to calm down so I can help discharge you" "fuck you bitch cunt go fuck yourself" (in the setting of clear threat to self or others). A pro-2A MAXIMALIST might have no problem with someone who is overtly dangerous, foul tempered, and irresponsible owning a gun. Fine.
BUT.
You need a plan for individuals who are extremely likely to commit violence. Some patients are likely (where likely could means something like 30-70, not a baseline 2% risk of committing a murder) to commit violence. An example is ongoing escalatory stalking and harassment behavior. Seizing their guns and/or preventing them from buying guns gives the victim options while other social processes (like moving away, a restraining order and violations of the same leading to jail time) come into play.
What do you want to do to prevent Nybbler killing man from killing you. He gets discharged by the judge from the Psych hospital because he hasn't attacked anyone in the hospital. The Psychiatrist has a duty to warn by law to tell you hey I think this guy is at high risk of killing you. Guy goes home, everyone knows he is going to go kill you, how do you stop him? If you call the police they'll say "has he done anything yet?" or maybe "file a restraining order." That's shitty.
This is not theoretical. I've seen patient situations similar to this where the whole hospital goes "shit that guy is going to kill someone" but we can't do anything about it. Then we read about it on the news or treat the victim.
That's with the current state. It gets worse with guns involved.
This is a common sense restriction.
I suspect your issue is of the cathedral and woke politics - you don't trust Psychiatrists to appropriately judge if someone is really in need of an involuntary commitment. I'm sure they get it wrong sometimes just like felony convictions, but:
Can you produce any evidence that people getting guns being taken away from them because of involuntary commitment inappropriately is occurring with any degree of frequency?
HereAndGone
24m ago
So the Bezos-Sanchez wedding took place, and by all accounts it was exactly as overblown, tacky, and vulgar as anyone's little heart could desire. I haven't watched any of it myself, so why am I mentioning it in the Culture War thread?
Well, because Tina Brown commented on it, and it's at least tangential because we've often discussed on here "what do women want/dating apps/men get the rough end of the stick in divorce/other such delightful War of the Sexes fodder".
I get the impression that Tina wasn't on the guest list so there may be an element of sour grapes here, but in general I think I agree. Jeff Bezos, fourth richest man in the world (depending on the day and the ranking) could have pretty much any woman in the world he wanted. So, who did he blow up his marriage for and before we get into the complaining about his wife taking him to the cleaners, it was he who caused the divorce (actually, divorces because his inamorata was also married at the time)?
The woman next door, a triumph of grinding determination to keep her figure through diet, exercise, and plastic surgery. She managed to find a classy wedding dress so kudos for that, as well as showing off the results of all that effort.
Back to Tina's commentary:
Now that the 55- year-old bride Sánchez has proved that landing the fourth richest man in the world requires the permanent display of breasts like genetically modified grapefruit and behemoth buttocks bursting from a leopard-print thong bikini, she’s exuberantly and unapologetically shown that the route to power and glory for women hasn't changed since the first Venetian Republic.
Ouch. But also, yes. What am I trying to say here? Mostly that the next time there's yet another post about reversing the fertility decline by putting obstacles in the way of women going to higher education, steering them to marrying early, and good old traditional 'the man is the head of the house and women should work to please their husband and that includes sex whenever and however he wants it', remember this. Male sexuality is a lot simpler than female sexuality. Jeff could have destroyed his marriage for a nubile twenty-something with naturally big assets, but he went for tawdry 'sexy' with the trout pout and plastic boobs (though once again, I have to salute her commitment to starving and exercising in order to keep a taut muscle tone). It's not much good to criticise women for being shallow in the dating market when the fruits of success are to dress like this and hook your own billionaire.
Feels like Labour and the UK had their socialism experiment with Corbyn. Didn't last long nor did it do much good, but it was an interesting case study in just what modern day socialism is in practice:
A young and naïve base of support. An old guard of political weirdos who can't decide on if they are doing principled economic classism or third world brown nationalist ethnic warfare. A principled adherence to the former alienates the young, the rhetoric of the latter alienates the old.
It felt like an indictment of the entire left wing project. Insofar as leftism isn't enabling the worst excesses of capitalism, it hardly gets anything done. And what it can get done for its own good takes a lot of time and a lot of hard work, which is not very appealing to young voters who are having their brains bombed with the most impactful political extremism the algorithm can throw at them.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
32m ago
There's a fairly lucid section in the article about how genius level masters didn't appear born with intrinsic motivation and the simple explanations like "they just love practicing more" don't hold.
Primaprimaprima
...something all admit only "TRUMP", and the Trump Administration, can do.
32m ago
It’s not going to work in the US because the ship has simply sailed. We’re in far too deep.
The most we can do is try to give the US a smooth controlled landing and encourage European countries to not go down the same path.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
33m ago
At the risk of doing a "real X has never been tried", I think you were missing the "or GTFO" part.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
34m ago
For most of the last 50 years we haven't been doing "assimilate or GTFO". We did it before that and managed to assimilate large groups.
TeknOShEeP
34m ago
did he actually do this
There's a FB video of it somewhere, amongst all of the other Satanist content (not derrogatory, he is apparently a practicing Satanist). Lacking a FB account, i cant actually log in to find the specific one. But he posted it himself.
Now i personally dont give a fuck what he does, but for branding purposes he's sort of pigeonholed himself into a very specific niche that a) most gun owners and gun curious people probably dont align with, and b) would definitely affect the squeaky clean image Gun Jesus cultivates.
Gaashk
36m ago
I used ChatGPT once to do a required writing task that I thought was useless and didn't want to do. I did edit it for some semblance of accuracy, but did not exactly read it, nor do I remember what it said. If I thought it mattered or was a useful thing to do I would have written it myself, I like writing essays, including college essays.
WhiningCoil
37m ago
The last 50 years have been a failure of "assimilate or GTFO". 50 more years and "GTFO" won't be an option any longer. It may already be too late.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
37m ago
If you believe, as I increasingly do, that most of our societal ills with corruption and collapse of state capacity revolve around the mass importation of high time preference demographics incapable at a genetic level of pursuing generational projects, deporting them is not only a solution, but the only solution.
Unfortunately, at least in the US, that's not going to work, for 13/52 reasons.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
40m ago
The point is "exaggerated porn noises" during sex, even if the girl isn't enjoying herself.
Yes, that was in said major motion picture trailer.
When (generic) you tell me "porn is making kids think choking during sex is normal", I'm inclined to consider it. When you say "Porn is making kids think choking, pleasurable noises, and women having (or faking) orgasms during sex is normal" I'm inclined to think you just have something against porn that might be unrelated.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
41m ago
Much like I urged to give the El Salvador solution at least the good ol' college try before cursing entire peoples down seven generations, I'd urge to at least try "assimilate or GTFO" (don't know if there are any success stories as stark as El Salvador, though). People respond to incentives.
HereAndGone
45m ago
You... don't read a lot of yaoi, do you? That shit's about as heteronormative in its seme/uke dynamics as breathplay is- maybe the Motte should compile an essential reading list.
Look, if I want my filthy depraved kink, I get it the old-fashioned way: by going on fanfic sites. I'm old enough that I don't need to lie about age-verification anymore, but these young'uns nowadays should at least have to work that much to get their porny kicks!
thejdizzler
46m ago
This July 4 thinking of renting a car and driving up to Gettysburg to do a run on the battlefield. Hopefully if I go early enough won't run into too many re-enacters. Hoping to do some hill repeats up cemetery ridge and little roundtop.
HereAndGone
47m ago
The point is "exaggerated porn noises" during sex, even if the girl isn't enjoying herself. And choking certainly wasn't mainstream, but it's seeping out just like heterosexual anal sex, and that comes from porn. Kids are watching porn and picking up lessons from it about "this is what sex is supposed to be like", which is why we're trying to hold back the tide on minors accessing porn. Age-verification laws like the one in Texas may be futile, but the alternative surely shouldn't be "they've got Internet access since the age of six, they're gonna find porn anyway, let thirteen year olds watch hardcore BDSM, you can't stop them".
7 zillion people do far trashier things every week. Is it because he's rich? We abandon the whole "leading by example" idea for aristocrats ages ago, and Bezos is not aristocrat.
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