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hydroacetylene
5m ago
Indeed, you periodically have US-style conservative Christians who happen to be originally from Germanic Europe illegally immigrate to the US and the political valences are opposite.
Bingbong
5m ago
Sure, but not getting the work done makes everybody's life worse.
Does a delay on the next app update for AI-powered Dog Grindr to pick Daily Fantasy Sports lineups make anybody's life particularly worse, though?
KMC
5m ago
Just because he's likely pretty girly already doesn't make him a girl
He's not even that girly, he likes to run fast and he like big trucks and he likes adults to watch him when he does stuff and he likes watching me when I work with tools. The most I've seen prior to this was some painted nails and using backwards pronouns for himself and others. Apparently there was a meltdown at/coming home from/because of? school that had something to do with going with the other boys to the bathroom.
I just don't think the correct response is to let him wear dresses at home, and to wear his hair like a girl at school.
hydroacetylene
9m ago
Americans by and large like at will employment. To the American mind a company should be able to fire who they like, unless they're discriminating or something, because otherwise managers will be less willing to hire(and it does seem basically true that the American labor market is more flexible and easier to find a job in compared to internationally. Illegals enjoy their higher wages but they also love the ability to find a new employer comparatively easier, for example).
Imaginary_Knowledge
10m ago
When gradual, principled change becomes impossible, only blunt instruments remain. The last dutifully considered major policy the US was able to enact was the ACA 15 years ago. Governance since then has consisted of rule by fiat: sometimes the executive; sometimes the court. Doesn't matter. We're burning hard won norms for temporary positional advantage. Nobody really believes in the system anymore.
In this environment, a genteel and thoughtful reform of the H-1B program is impossible. It's as if Trump were some Ringworld Pak protector trying to stabilize a long-neglected world and, finding all the usual maintenance and repair mechanisms broken and almost all the stationkeeping thrusters stripped for frivolous reasons like ago by reckless people who didn't know the damage they were doing to their home, has to use the crudest and bluntest instrument imaginable just to stop the immediate problem.
What you're describing is acceptable collateral damage we have to incur to make the immediate crisis stop.
Bingbong
12m ago
What if the Indian population goes back to their country of Origin, takes a moment of pause to help right the historical wrongs suffered by the Backwards castes and give them their moment in the sun instead of trying to dodge overseas to avoid the truly needful passing over of privilege.
Iconochasm
2. Bootstrap the rest of the fucking omnipotence.
20m ago
Isn't tying H1-Bs to the employer just a necessary function of the entire concept? The company applies to hire them for a specific position it claims it cannot find Americans for. Ending the corporate bondage is just ending the entire program.
RandomRanger
Just build nuclear plants!
22m ago
So the army doesn't want to distribute food. They don't want to let anyone else distribute food. But they do want to shoot people coming up to get food... Doesn't take a genius to see what's going on here! And it's not a sincere concern for crowd crush and equitable distribution of aid.
CertainlyWorse
No one is coming. It's just you.
27m ago
(I've learned you always want to be a patient gamer with flavor of the month early access games)
This is probably good advice. I hate ruining EA games for myself by coming to the end of the content, and not feeling motivated enough to ever return to the game in it's final form.
A lot of it is cultural. I really don’t mind third world elites, probably 85% of my apartment building consists of them and they are generally polite, comparatively well dressed, keep to themselves and keep communal spaces clean. Having grown up around rich Americans I can’t really say they are any less pleasant to be around.
But the last 30 years have seen large numbers of peasants come in, in addition to existing third world peasant populations like the Mirpuris in England, rural Anatolians in Germany and so on.
A few very rich westernized Bangladeshis in Mayfair and Chelsea doesn’t bother (almost) anyone. Tower Hamlets becoming a Sylheti Islamist ethnostate does. This is pretty simple stuff.
CertainlyWorse
No one is coming. It's just you.
29m ago
I picked up Return to Moria a while ago for free on Epic Games Store (who are still giving away free games weekly btw).
I first played it a bit solo (up until the tentacled lake lurker or whatever it was) and then restarted to play with a friend. While it was kind of fun to explore Moria alone and gave me a feeling of isolation, the game seems to be designed for Multiplayer. I eventually dropped the game because it didn't hold my interest. I don't think I'd go back unless I could play it with friends as the content itself feels kind of samey after a while.
Imaginary_Knowledge
30m ago
Even if it gets reversed, the beneficial uncertainty it's introduced will remain and chill immigration a bit. It's still a good thing. The revolt of the public continues apace.
Goodguy
30m ago
I don't see any reason to have a feeling of fellowship with my fellow citizens, specifically, as opposed to having a feeling of fellowship with groups defined in other ways. But I do see that in certain situations, it is best for society in general to at least pretend to have a feeling of citizenship.
So I think you do have a point about the woke madness.
For me one of the interesting things about immigration is that, I think that for the most part, neither wokes nor right-wingers have any real principles about it.
If most people illegally crossing the US border were white conservative Christians, the wokes would be demanding to build a border wall and the right-wingers would be setting up sanctuary cities.
ChickenOverlord
35m ago
You really ought to try to have some feeling of fellowship with your fellow citizens. At a minimum, pretending that citizenship means nothing is a big part of what allowed the woke madness (especially in regards to immigration) to take hold in the first place. But this (surprisingly coherent) video from Sam Hyde might help convince you for other reasons: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YvcUQI6gAaI?si=yIqiiZSn1C4nAos9
Goodguy
41m ago
"I really don't want to have to have to compete against a billion Indians" isn't an argument, it's an expression of a preference.
@TheAntipopulist might have some kind of political principle behind his statement, but if he does, he hasn't expressed it. He's just expressed a preference to face less competition from Indians. As for me, personally, I just want to face less economic competition from people in general, it doesn't matter to me whether they're US citizens or foreigners.
Goodguy
43m ago
Citizenship means nothing to me. I just want to have less economic competition, whether it's from other US citizens or from foreigners.
phailyoor
44m ago
Good on them for building it, but if you read the article you would see that the DUV tech they are testing is years behind the latest EUV stuff, and it will still be years before it is up and running.
EUV is a whole different beast from DUV and who knows when China will have one ready.
ChickenOverlord
47m ago
because them trying to supply labour is little different than Indians trying to supply labour?
Objection, facts not in evidence.
ChickenOverlord
50m ago
but do you equally accept the arguments of liberal elites who want to exclude US citizen conservatives from being able to compete for elite jobs for the same reason
No, because citizenship actually means something. Which means that, in spite of the countless issues I have with our black underclass, I prioritize them over illegal Mexicans competing for their same jobs.
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
52m ago
Okay, that's fair. I suppose I might be typical minding. I think I am considerably less nerdy/autistic than many users here (no offense meant, I just mean that I'm a socially integrated normalfag) and even I based my choice of college mainly on (1) the fact that it had the field I was interested in, (2) that it wasn't located in an inner city shithole, and (3) that they gave me a fat scholarship.
I've often heard hat new stadiums/cafeterias/fancy dorms are built to "attract students" but I do not personally know anyone who compared universities in this way. Even the 100 IQ normies at my HS who you would expect might care about that stuff were much more interested in whether a particular school had a good "party school" rep, whether their bf/gf was going there, or whether it was the "correct" school for their family sports fan dynasty (I lived in the southeast). I do not recall once ever hearing about the quality of the dorms or gyms.
However! If I were an unscrupulous admin trying to expand my bureaucratic power, this seems like a really convenient argument to make. "We need 50 million dollars for a new gym to attract students to Foobar State! If we don't build it, students will choose University of Foobar instead! We can't fall behind!" And all the other admins have grifts of their own and know how to play the game, so I doubt anyone would stand in the way except to try to grab those funds for their own power expansion ("We don't need a gym, we need to expand and renovate student housing!")
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
1hr ago
I didn't say international students were demanding shiny facilities and more administrators, I'm just saying that the money from international students most likely goes towards increasing bloat and add more irrelevant facilities. Does a university actually NEED a state of the art massive gym complex or sprawling student union center? These always seemed like make-work bureaucracy expansion projects to me. More facilities = more employees = more admin. At least football can be justified as pulling donations from alumni. Certainly none of the money goes to making education cheaper or better (cheaper books, higher prof salaries, more profs to decrease class sizes, etc).
urquan
Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?
1hr ago
They're not "demanding" it by protesting, they're demanding it by choosing to attend one university over another and therefore sending tuition dollars to one university instead of the other one. It's demand in the economic sense, not the political sense.
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
1hr ago
No? I don't think I said that? I'm sure the admins, like all useless bureaucrats, will cling to their gibs until the bitter end, even if it means completely hollowing out the educational mission of the university.
There aren't a ton of rednecks competing for these jobs, and while they have somewhat different workplace expectations, it's not India tier different.
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