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Finished Merchanter’s Luck. Excellent, vintage sci-fi. I’d rate it quite highly for elegantly sketched characters, understated but effective worldbuilding, and economy of prose. These are enough to turn a borderline cliche premise into an immersive one. Unabashedly genre fiction without straying into pulp.

Next up is Sarah Waters’ Fingersmith, a period Victorian gay heist novel and/or comedy of manners. While I don’t normally enjoy such a hateful protagonist, I’m quite liking the book so far. Unfortunately, the previous owner of my copy underlined random bits and occasionally added margin notes.

swears are freely allowed

The moderators are aware of the use–mention distinction, but the rules still include "be kind", "be no more antagonistic than is absolutely necessary for your argument", and "write as if everyone were reading and you wanted him to be included in the discussion".

why do so many of these self identifying Nazis seem to feel at home in the GOP, and why do they seem to believe they might have decent levels of support?

This was a private group chat, no? Saying this sort of stuff in private but not in public seems like the opposite of "believing that they have decent levels of support".

People say wild things in chat sometimes, at least in the spicier chats. If you've never been invited to any of the spicier chats, this may be surprising to you.

Isn't it great that we can talk in a place where swears are freely allowed? Gah, I love freedom. Thanks mods.

As hydro said, the Amerindians were originally kept as separate as possible from the white American population. Amerindians weren't given unconditional birthright citizenship until 1924, and the reservations are still considered sovereign territory for their respective Indian nations. Later developments would take Indian policy in a more assimilationist direction, but that was mainly from a Christianizing perspective and not broadly miscegenatory.

The Australians went around massacring Aboriginals in an ad-hoc bottom-up way because it was easy but there was never any actual policy to get rid of them, the closest they got is 'the arc of history bends towards us, no big deal if they wither away but we won't actually make it happen, we'll do weird things like them away from their parents and raise them as our own'.

While there was no official policy of extermination, there was a considerable amount of more active efforts to expedite the withering process.

From Mark Twain's "Following The Equator":

Here is an instance. A squatter, whose station was surrounded by Blacks, whom he suspected to be hostile and from whom he feared an attack, parleyed with them from his house-door. He told them it was Christmas-time-a time at which all men, black or white, feasted; that there were flour, sugar-plums, good things in plenty in the store, and that he would make for them such a pudding as they never dreamed of-a great pudding of which all might eat and be filled. The Blacks listened and were lost. The pudding was made and distributed. Next morning there was howling in the camp, for it had been sweetened with sugar and arsenic!

The white man's spirit was right, but his method was wrong. His spirit was the spirit which the civilized white has always exhibited toward the savage, but the use of poison was a departure from custom. True, it was merely a technical departure, not a real one; still, it was a departure, and therefore a mistake, in my opinion. It was better, kinder, swifter, and much more humane than a number of the methods which have been sanctified by custom, but that does not justify its employment. That is, it does not wholly justify it.

Good points, thanks for coming back around to this.

I agree that early Christianity was apocalyptic! Obviously not as apocalyptic as the insane cults we've seen throughout history, since they survived and spread incredibly well, but there was a strong bent towards it for sure.

"Let's elect the most leftwing candidate we can."

"Great, so Stalin then?"

Does rephrasing it that way help you understand the joke, or are you going to go down with the USS Waging The Culture War?

Literally "Yes [practically] all men!" That's correct. "Locker room talk" is real.

There's a Chappell Show sketch about a woman who develops psychic powers and hear men's thoughts. She is comedically horrified at every man she meets including a middle school boy. You are resembling that character a bit.

Sure, but that still means credit goes to Stalin, no?

The rightmost and "our beliefs" may be different things. Extrapolating your views to the most extreme failure state possible is not endorsing hyperbolic extremism.

If a Young Democrat said we need more government control over the economy and another one sarcastically replied "okay, Chairman Mao", I would not interpret that as literal support for Maoist economic policies.

Granted, they did do the Nazi thing of rounding up co-ethnics and shipping them off to concentration camps in Siberia

By contrast, there's a country in the Near East- the ethnicity of its founders even had 'nazi' as part of their name- that despite its small size actively sends armed 'settlers' into a combat zone to displace the natives there, spends a great deal of treasure doing this, and the people that do those things have a TFR above 2. That just ain't a thing the average communist does.

Because they don't have to. Russia / the USSR is a different creature, but the Soviet satellite states were so ethnically homogeneous, they'd give the average Californian a stroke. And come to think of it this might even apply to the USSR, give or take minor Soviet Republics being flooded with ethnic Russians to maintain control, it's not like you were free to travel around that country. As for TFR, I think my generation is the last above-replacement one.

I was a Daily Show watching Dem-voting asshole internet atheist

Even the guy who used to write for John Oliver and still is liberal in every conceivable way is getting fed-up of the activists blowing up mountains out of molehills and the 'trust the science' bullshit being, well, bullshit.

More importantly, why didn't they count hard Rs and soft As independently? I need to know how close to a real MW2 lobby we're talking here.

Anyway, "this girl is fully retarded" is hardly worth clutching pearls over... maybe imitation pearls?

Remember a little while back when there were finger-wagging lists of words that were no-no because they were ableist, including describing things as "things are insane round here" or "we're crazy busy this week"?

So terms like 'retarded' are no-no because slurs and because 'excuse me, my brother is retarded, how dare you?' as per this article ("When someone casually says, “she’s so crazy” in an off-handed way, they could be talking about someone like my mom.")

one could imagine a fascist movement built on the basis of "our nation has never been particularly great or important, but we are going to be great in the future".

Without that specific spiritual foundation it just decays into regular old authoritarian nationalism. Most right wing African governments have this sort of setup and they are recognizably not fascist. And South America has it's fair share of Caudillisms too.

When you start to bring out some mythic past to rewrite the history and meaning of all institutions through fanatical and totalitarian mass politics, then you're in fascist territory.

In a weird way the Woke movement is as close to Fascism as MAGA, just from the other side. But neither are fascist.

Or Imperial Russia, whose failure to do exactly this was the entire reason Stalin rose to Tsardom in the first place.

I thought about doing 8/16 IF but that's quite hard to fit in my schedule. Looks like 10/14 is working OK for me so far, and it fits well, but if it becomes not enough I could try to go to 8/16.

Talk is cheap, of course. What did they actually do to support the average working-class non-party-member family? Granted, they did do the Nazi thing of rounding up co-ethnics and shipping them off to concentration camps in Siberia, but far as I know that wasn't an explicit policy goal and was more about paying off supporters than anything that would have benefited the average Russian.

By contrast, there's a country in the Near East- the ethnicity of its founders even had 'nazi' as part of their name- that despite its small size actively sends armed 'settlers' into a combat zone to displace the natives there, spends a great deal of treasure doing this, and the people that do those things have a TFR above 2. That just ain't a thing the average communist does.

Yes, Mr. Ivanov, Alexander Ivanovich, Alexander, Alex, Sasha, Sanya, Shura, Shurik, Ivanych, etc. are all the same person, depending on context. And using the wrong one in a wrong context may be a major social faux pas too. Unless you grew up with it, it can be a bit tricky to guess, especially that some diminutives have very little obvious connection to the full name, and some of them are also non-unique. You just have to know it.

Would you happen to be the Twitter Skeletor? That guy rocks and you rock.

I haven't heard of the Young Republicans before this.

Their Wikipedia page is almost empty except for the story that just broke out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Republicans

They have under 4000 followers on Twitter https://x.com/yrnational

I checked their website and most state chapters have at most a Facebook page.

They haven't seem to have accomplished much that would be newsworthy.

I'm sure they do stuff, but as an outsider doing some minor research, I can't say I'm impressed.

Yeah, he should get some credit for that. It's more than you can say for Republican Spain, or even modern progressives.

when he realized it's ruining the country, and he might have a war or two to fight

Translation: Stalin perceived that the valuation of men in society increased (or would increase), resulting in it being necessary to pander more to their interests lest his forces simply permit the Germans to walk right into Moscow and overthrow the government through inaction.

If you had the same access to 'Young Democrats' or whatever it is on a college campus, you could 'both sides' this pretty quickly

Indeed, Vance did exactly this, bringing up the Virginia AG candidate who called for the deaths of conservatives’ children in a text message exchange.

a total lack of emphasis on family formation and children

I was just a baby at the time, but that seems a bit off. My parents told me the message at the time was "the family is the basic cell of a society", and other such slogans that you could easily mistake for coming from the Tradcath sphere.