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Does anyone here know their Myers-Briggs type or ever tried to figure it out?

Ok yes I know it's pseudoscience, I know it's not much better than a horoscope

Is it actually any worse than mainstream psychology?

Nope, low-rise pants and skimpy tops. If it's a tshirt, it now hugs the body again. No more elder Zoomer bagginess.

The jury was perfectly entitled to conclude that a non-negligent driver (1) would have stopped at the yellow light rather than trying to get through it or (2) would have tried to avoid hitting Christopher by braking rather than by swerving without braking.

Entering an intersection on a yellow light is legal (in this state). But failing to brake when you have a yellow light and someone else illegally runs a red light in front of you may count as negligence.

Also, in this case, Russell specifically admitted that he didn't even consider whether he could safely stop at the yellow light.

INTJ, every damn time. I found the whole bit about extroverted sensing being my inferior function quite interesting, as it explained a few of my RW peccadilloes like driving fun cars.

Tim Walz was criticised for acting in effeminate ways. Not physically being a woman but acting like a woman.

I've reviewed a few of these in older FFTs as well, but I think I didn't say anything about NGE. My honest opinion is that watching it is one of these things you have to do at the right developmental step.

If you are the same age as the protagonists and you've just recently learned self-reflection and furiously reflect every day in the shower and in your own bed, NGE fucking blows your mind. It's literally the pinnacle of "I'm 13 and this is deep", it resonates with you.

That’s insane.

I’m always going on yellow. On an incredibly rare occasion the light turns red exactly as I head into the intersection.

This is perfectly logical and I assumed legal.

It’s either go on yellow or slam my brakes.

"is obligated to exercise reasonable care, which includes making reasonable observations for traffic traveling on an intersecting street".

That makes zero sense. Unless you’re literally running the red light - short of slamming your brakes so hard that you’re burning rubber, this doesn’t make sense.

Does anyone here know their Myers-Briggs type or ever tried to figure it out?

Ok yes I know it's pseudoscience, I know it's not much better than a horoscope, but it's the fun thread gimme a break. If we can talk about tarot we can talk about MBTI. (MBTI at least is willing to talk about the weaknesses and negative aspects of different personality types, which makes it a little better than a horoscope.)

I think I'm an INFx (never quite sure on the last letter). Or at least an INxx. Probably most people who enjoy long internet arguments are an INxx of some kind.

Most people think you're supposed to just mix and match the four letters (decide if you're an introvert or extrovert for I or E, thinker or feeler for T or F, etc) but actually what it's really "about" is the "cognitive function stack", the cognitive tools that you use to process information and make decisions. The four letter personality type is just a code for a specific function stack. So for the INTP for example, their functions (from most dominant to least dominant) are Ti Ne Si Fe - introverted thinking, extroverted intuition, introverted sensing, and extroverted feeling. The "introverted" functions are more private, more about determining the texture of your inner experience, more about how you generate thoughts and ideas internally, and the "extroverted" functions are how you interface with the outside world, those are the aspects of your experience that you want to share around and make public, you're more likely to want to know how other people are experiencing that same function, etc.

If nothing else, I think the idea of different individual aspects of your cognition being introverted or extroverted, rather than introversion/extroversion being a single trait, is interesting and may have some use.

By “biological” I don’t mean race alone: the biological instinct to secure and favor one’s territory without regard for any potential benefit of internationalism; a leader who is strong, militant and paternal, occupying the same role as a leader in a primitive human group or warband; paternal regard for citizens; distrust of foreigners and saving the worst hatred for foreigners who meddle in your territory; importance of allegiance to a single leader; importance of tradition; shaming individualism; increasing pride through deeds specifically for the group (as opposed to say, getting a job in finance). These spring up from a biological source; non-fascist societies actually need to train people to feel otherwise. An untrained boy will always like the strong, militant, paternal superhero; he makes exclusive “hide-outs” in the woods with his own friend group and would be upset if another group of boys encroached; he imitates his father’s ways; etc. You could see these features in many prehistoric societies.

I thought baggy masculine clothes were the style for zoomer girls? (I know of a couple irl examples.)

Could be a regional or Blue/Red thing.

The weather's probably part of the reason. At the moment, I'd probably go out into the street in only my underwear too if it was socially acceptable.

It frankly boggles my imagination how skimpy the clothing is around these parts, given how cold it can get. Even more so in Manchester, where every wo-man seeks to expose as much of their chest as feasible. Not that I'm complaining, especially not when I need motivation to go the gym.

Friday hornyposting thread.

I went to the friendly local mall yesterday to buy a bucket hat for my trip to the mountains and it looks like the fashion went full circle. Girls in their late teens now dress like they dressed when I was their age in the early 00's. I couldn't help myself and eyefucked every single one of them as I was walking from shop to shop.

Maybe all these men that suddenly married a much younger woman are victims of cyclical fashion?

Jews are widely treated as a kind of endangered species.

I would be the first to acknowledge that this is a serious risk. You don't want AI becoming entirely autonomous/independent and then outcompeting mankind even if it's not actively malevolent. Being disenfranchised and having the rest of the light cone being snatched out from under our noses would suck, even if we didn't die in the process.

The ideal outcome, as far as I'm concerned, would the opposite of the evil genie in a lamp. In other words, a preternaturally powerful yet benevolent being that has your best interests at heart, and seeks to fulfill your desires instead of twisting them, and also takes orders from you. That is an aspirational goal, but not one that's literally impossible when we're making them from scratch.

The possibility space is large:

  • A monopolar scenario, where the AI is malevolent. We all die.

  • Multipolar regime of competing AI that are all misaligned. We almost certainly die.

  • Monopolar hegemonizing AI that is controlled by human(s), but said humans aren't particularly concerned with the rest of us. We may or may not die, but I wouldn't be happy.

  • Everything in between

  • (Everything outside)

That’s interesting, I didn’t know. Thanks :) All ancient history now but an interesting case.

Certainly there are Christian trads who don’t see it that way, but in Israel it’s part of the secular vs conservative culture war where religious conservatives complain about Christmas trees and tinsel at shopping malls and in other public spaces.

I hate you guys so much -_-

It’s possible, but it seems unlikely that one of the probably first few hundred medically transitioned people ever (maybe even the first hundred; there were a couple pre-war, a handful postwar, and then a trickle in the 1960s and 1970s) happened to hide it in an elaborate conspiracy and then became First Lady of France.

We have some degree of redistribution in most countries today, for people who for noble or ignoble reasons, can't work on the free market. Eventually, that will be everyone.

Yes, because those people are still made of almost the same stuff as productive people, and are the relatives and friends of productive people, and for reasons of simplicity and history have the same rights as productive people. All of that goes out the window when there are no more productive people. When there is one polity in which AI is the sole producer of value and unproductive humans have value redistributed to them, and another polity in which AI is the sole producer of value and humans are not a factor, then which of the two will perform better?

Ghibly

Poser spotted.

:(

People don’t like chatbots just because they’re useful (I don’t think they at present are doing anything that a well thought out google search couldn’t do)

C'mon dude. That "well thought out" bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting. All, or at least most, of the knowledge a doctor possesses is 'out there' somewhere in the vast expanse of the internet, and probably indexed on Google too. I would suggest not trying to replace doctors with Google searches or WebMD, even if doctors use Google and WebMD themselves. Knowing what to ask and how to ask it, alongside weighing it all? That's what you pay us for. I am more than happy to concede that LLMs are a far more existential threat to the profession than Google.

Besides. Google search can't write a poem, generate a picture in the Ghibly style or write your code for you. And it sucks more than it ever has, both due to SEO and Google's own enshittification. Google has given up and begun to use LLMs to solve the problem in search. So, in a way, you're stating that LLMs are only as capable as LLMs.

You imagine yourself a “winner” in this future, so it means a life of luxury and leisure. The reality is probably not so good, as humanity is unlikely to distribute goods to people who do nothing to earn them. We rarely did so, and when we did it tended to be meager goods and cause problems.

Hang on again. The people who floated the possibility of AI utopia are, to a first approximation, the same people who raised severe concerns about the risk of extinction or permanent disempowerment courtesy of the same. Who do you think came up with the whole paper-clip maximizer idea, or even the concept of a p(doom)?

More importantly, AI has the possibility of making us all obsolete. Elon Musk or Buffet too, in that their intellectual output becomes strictly redundant. The possess far more power, courtesy of owning stock in the companies working away at creating Machine Gods, but there's no qualitative difference here.

The better frame is to imagine some idly rich petrostate, where everyone, from king to sheikh to prole, all lives off the largesse of the land. None of the citizens need to work, because AI foreign workers do all the actual labor.

We have some degree of redistribution in most countries today, for people who for noble or ignoble reasons, can't work on the free market. Eventually, that will be everyone.

  • I want a reactionary trad society to provide me with good immediate social superiors, socially and politically savvy men, whom I can rely on to protect my autistic craftsman interests in exchange for providing reliable service to them, in a quasi retainer-lord or relationship.

What would actually probably happen is my immediate social superiors blatanlty and short-sightedly exploiting me in a parallel to peasant-lord relationships, and me rediscovering why there were so many peasant uprisings and why feudalism couldn't compete.

Haruhi Suziyama

Poser spotted